So, you apparently don’t know that dm33 or some equitant is found on a lot of tanks currently sitting at 9.0. Soon to be 9.3. It was an example of why those tanks can certainly fight early MBTs if they see a full up tier. But since you wanna name call, I’ll just go ahead and block you.
and no 9.3s dont all have dm33 equivalent look at France and America even some 9.7 and 10.0 cant consistently pen 2a4 and protection analysis is never accurate for some reason
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will say one thing from experiance with the Ariete its firepower is great but its more of a glass canon as anything at the br will go through. If the 2A4 stay 10.3 and gets DM33 then the ariete needs to stay at 10.0 due to being worse in every way nearly
T90a should not have got 3bm60, it would have been fine with 3bm46.
The T90a being from 2004, and the 3bm46 being from 2016.
I really wish gaijin would do something about the t80u tanks, they ruined my line up when they moved those tanks up. IDK what they did to the t80u tanks to make them so good, maybe they buffed its armor? Whatever they did I wish they would nerf it so I could play my t90a and t80u tanks again side by side and represent what Russia had in the early 2000s.
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the Ariete feels like a light tank with challenger mobility
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it most likely gets it because its still in service
and m1128 at 10.0 with high pen is normal?
T64B was 9.3 with 3BM42
Balancing vehicles based solely on what features they have access to is not wise.
The M60s for instance are all overwhelmingly slow. None of the features they have is enough to outweigh the lack of ability to move around the battlefield, and even just their own agility in fighting, peaking and taking shots, such things.
There is a reason why the Lorraine now sits at 7.7, was given such ridiculous repair costs despite being introduced at a lower br, and that was because of its combination of good mobility, good damage and rate of fire. It didn’t need APDS, or HEAT, or laser rangefinders, or even armor. Yet it found itself there based on the merits of what it did have.
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Its now 9.7, whats your problem?
2S25M exist at 10.0… so what is your problem?
And 2S25M is 10.0 aswell with a 7.1 second reload with 3BM46 which is better than the M1128s M900.
bro its alight without armor
The AFT09 should be higher than 9.0 because it has some crazy tandem missile that penetrates up to 1200mm of RHA, pretty much equivalent to their russian counterpart (Khrizantema’s 9M123 and BMP-2M’s 9M133). And considering the Khrizantema is planned to go up to 9.7, the AFT09 should at the very least be at 9.3, it’d even still perform well at 9.7 because of its mobility and can shoot 4 ATGMs before reloading (Unlike the Khrizantema which can only shoot 2).
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This is a WT forum thread…
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Why would you move the poor basic ATGM carriers up? MEPHISTO, AFT09 and M901 make sense, but we have 10 second reload (and some of them also open top) missile carriers going up with the rest when they are already very questionable choices in an average match and now the missiles are barely functional.
HJ73E compared to 9M113 is a heavy downgrade, it has half the explosive power, moves extremely slowly at 130m/s (9M: 248m/s) and it doesn’t even fly straight because it is launched upwards kinda like a grenade which also makes it impossible to use at shorter ranges because the missile takes 2 seconds to adjust.
ZBD 100% belongs below the BMP1 but the difference really isn’t big enough to put it at lower BR.
if you would look at the leopard 2a4 in comparison to the t90 with 0.3 BR difference, would see that the 2a4 has no chance to pen the t90 on long distance and the t90 can pen him everywhere. It has Ircm, better thermal and a lower profile. Considering the 2a4 will probaby go up in br on 10.7,so please dont tell me that t90 will suffer on 11.0
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I don’t even know why you bothered me. But I don’t want to nerf any nation. I want to balance the game I have spent so much time playing. I want gaijin to historically represent tanks how they would have entered service and then balance them based on statistics (of course with a little human thought behind the changes). If a tank needs a upgraded round to help its performance then Im fine with that, but a lot of tanks in the past couple of years got rounds they did not need, and they are now going to suffer because of that.
Just think, with the m1a1 and IPM1 from the mid 80s going up to 11.0 you now have a choice between playing 11.0 and getting up tiered to fight 11.7-12.0 or you can just bring 11.3-7 instead and have a chance. The same faith is happening right now with the t80u and soon to follow in its steps is going to be the t90a. Just sucks because I know, how much I fought against giving these tanks upgraded rounds back. Now these tanks are going off to suffer, because of the poor balancing decisions that were made back then.
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Why hasn’t mods done anything about this guy seriously. I’ve been punished for less, just saying.
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t80s and m1a1 are i dont see a problem with it going to 11.0
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