I think this BR change is not very reasonable. Firstly, making BR change while keeping the top BR of the ground army’s top-tier vehicles unchanged will only result in minimal effectiveness. This allows WW2 vehicles to avoid some HEAT, but it exposes more Cold War vehicles to encounter APFSDS rounds, which is highly unreasonable.
Secondly, concerning the Chinese helicopter line, the TY90 missile on Z-19/Z-19E/Z-10 is powerful, but their advantage is only limited on this missile. This results about their BR being higher or on par with KA-50/KA-52, which is unreasonable. It is well-known that KA-50/KA-52 helicopters are formidable, and I don’t think these Chinese helicopters have the same capabilities as them.
And my suggestion is to give TY90 missile more opint than before to let helicopter cannot take them at the beginning of the game.
Is there any chance to raise the maximum BR 12.0 to 12.3 for all air tech tree please?
There isn’t a single vehicle that will not benefit from slightly raising the current 11 air vehicles with a battle rating of 12.0 to 12.3. There is still a high number of air vehicles that are still at a major technological and or flight performance. A raise in the current battle ratting cap will breathe new life in the middle BR brackets while giving players unfamiliar with the dramatic change of how the game plays along with the chance of learning new controls for high to top tiers all while still having up to 30 different air vehicles that either possess the technological or flight performance to have a successful chance of fighting current 12.0 air vehicles, still contributing to the 11.3 - 12.3 match maker. The current battle ratting 12.0 cap still leaves a large proportion of medium to high battle rating bracket heavily compressed forced to fight foes with either a major technological and or flight performance advantage.
I would like to suggest,
USA OLD - NEW
F-14B 12.0 - 12.3
F-16A AFD 12.0 - 12.3
F-16 A 12.0 -12.3
Germany NEW - OLD
Mig-29 12.0 - 12.3
USSR NEW - OLD
YAK-141 12.0 -12.3
Mig-29 12.0 - 12.3
Japan NEW - OLD
F-16AJ 12.0 - 12.3
China NEW - OLD
F-16A MLU 12.0 -12.3
Italy NEW - OLD
F-16A ADF 12.0 -12.3
France NEW - OLD
Mirage 2000-5F 12.0 - 12.3
Israel NEW - OLD
F-16A Netz 12.0 - 12.3
I do hope my suggestion is considered.
Nice changes, however, there room for improvements.
A)Type 16 (P) / Type 16 should be 9.3 and 9.7 respectively, as things currently stand is too strong (3Gen Thermals + Insane Mobility) compared to the competition (WMA/PTL02 or Centauro 105R).
B)If the Rooikat 105 with DM33 and thermals can be 9.3 i don’t see why VFM5 should be 9.7 without thermals.
C)Chieftain Mk.3 should remain 8.3, lack of LRF, APDSFS and mobility put it at disadvantage vs T-55AM, Olifant Mk.1, etc.
Will ZTZ88A/B go to 9.0 or remain in 8.7?
Leopard I: 7.3 → 8.0. Excuse me, why? No stabilizer, unreliable armor, good mobility, okay gun though with unreliable damage. 7.7 should be good. Also, the M48 ith DM23 stays at it’s BR, huh? Why?
Bro, it won’t even affect Leo 1 as much, coz EVERYTHING in bracket of 6.7-9.7 goes up, AMX-30B2s are on 8.3, now going to 8.7, and they don’t have stab too, and their armor is even more useless. M48 is lower probably of the fact it’s much slower and armor of M48 is not as funky.
Ozelot: 9.3 → 9.7. It’s okay at it’s BR. No need for the move. It only gets 8 Stingers (10G missile), and quite a few aircraft at that BR can almost ignore it without stress, since they can evade those Stingers by flying low and/or fast, or really high. Also, IT HAS NO CANNONS! IT CAN’T DO ANYTHING AGAINST GROUND VEHICLES AT ALL, NOT EVEN MARK THEM FOR THEIR TEAM.
Lmao? Stingers Ks are probably the best AA A-G missile now, they don’t even react to flares at most and it’s an AA, you’re supposed to use it only as an AA, if you want additional guns then go play Gepard 1A2, Ozelot actually should go higher, even to 10.0.
T-54s and variants: 7.3-7.7 → 8.0 This is extremely unnecessary. 7.7 should be fine for all of them as well, since they also have unreliable armor, a decent gun but with horrible handling and mediocre maneuverability, and a slower reload than almost everything else they can encounter.
It is necessary, because like I said earlier, whole bracket is moving up, T-54 1949 was lower, because it didn’t have HEAT, which it gets now and as a matter of fact, they are giving T-54s faster reload (I know 1 round a minute more is not a lot, but it’s something).
T-55s: 8.0 → 8.3. Unnecessary move. It’s good at where it’s at. No need to face 9.3 vehicles. Okay gun, slow reload and mediocre mobility. No armor, pretty much
Whole. Bracket. Is. Moving. Up.
T-62s: 8.3 → 8.7. Again, unnecessary move. It’s fine where it’s at. Good gun with a slow reload, but mediocre everything else, pretty much.
It is necessary, cause THEY’RE MOVING WHOLE BRACKET UP, 8.7 won’t be affected, the only bracket that is getting beating now is 9.0-9.7.
Could you expect the BR to be upgraded to the Centurion AVRE and M728 CEV? But of course with a radical increase in damage from HESH ammunition, which at the moment is by far the most useless ammunition in the game and is nothing like the reality.
Generally the changes are good, but there is still no answer to almost everything above 10.0, it’s not fair to put new 9.0 tanks against 10.0 premiums especially.
In my opinion the changes are overall good, but the F-4E / F-4EJ / F-4EJ ADTW either put them on 10.7 or get the AIM-9L. Flying these jets is painful because of the poor radar, mediocre manoeuvrability because no Agile Eagle slat.
Hello Stona, what about the Leopard 2AV? Its reload speed could get a buff all things considered, it’s only 0.3 BRs lower than the M1(105mm) and 2A4 now while having a ~25% worse reload and no thermals.
LeopardA1A1：8.7➡️9.7
Leopard2 AV: 9.7➡️10.0
Have you thought about there are some better MBTs still at 8.7.LeopardA1A1 isn’t a good mbt at 9.0 even 8.7, gaijin you’d better not promote its BR
Also the Leopard2 AV should be 9.7
And T-62 can’t go 8.7, It is poor even at 8.3
CAN WE PLEEASE finaly get the Spikes for PUMA ? you have nerfed the missile systems a lot in the recent updates and all of the other IFVs have a missile, Bradley has one BMP has one and MANY of the other nations also have some and since the puma was moved up in BR so much it could finaly get it since it wont even be OP thanks to the recent nerfs. Just look at the freccia for example it has spike so i dont see a reason why puma shouldnt get it.
crying in puma with no missiles whatsoever
Yeah it’s stupid in the first place that the leo2a4 has a shorter reload than the leo2AV. Both should have the same space in the turret
New Update today 02/08/2023 - my time in NZ
Arcade Mode - should rename it “Another realistic Mode”… When flying a plane/heli - you cannot tell who is who and your team is not showing up in blue when flying around.
I have killed my own team because of this, this idea to stop you from seeing people on the field is stupid in arcade mode, and when in a tank, if the enemy is in front of you and they go behind a wall or building they disappear from your site and map… This makes no sense.
The arcade mode was fun you knew where everyone was and just go crazy and had fun.
If I want to play seriously and earn serious points then I go realistic mode.
This game is life draining enough already and this update makes it worse!
For the updated version:
M113A1 (TOW)'s shouldn’t go to 8.3, they are already worse in practice than the Bradley, Warrior and M901, 8.0 would be the best BR for them
Yeah…no Pbv 302 (BILL) is not a 8.7 ATGM. That vehicle is so bad it shoudl stay at 8.3…mabe even go down to 8.0
I’d add one more thing… for the love of God, and with the mercy of Jesus Christ, please lower the BR of the FlaRakRad to like 11.0, at this point the Ozelot with its AIM-92Ks is a better alternative due to SACLOS and guidence delay nerfs on VT-1s, it really shouldn’t be sitting at 11.7 and there are better alternatives to it (like Boxer with IRIS-T SL module). Tunguska went down in BRs, why did this thing go UP, it’s unironically horrible and I’m having more success with the Gepard 1A2.
Would you mind explain how the t54 mod 49 is op? Just wondering from a neutral standpoint.
I think the mephisto should receive HOT-3 if it’s going to the same br as the AFT09
Found mistake on the list: Swingfire current BR on RB is 7.3, not 7.7.
Concern:
I can’t find any reasons that Itarian FIAT 6614, AUBL/74, C13 T90 BR increace.
FIAT 6614: same armament as US M50 or JP Type 60 SPRG but less number. slow turret rotation (same as Type 60).
AUBL/74, C13 T90: almost same shell performance as German leKPz M41. these 3 vehicles have no armour, almost same gun. just mobility difference (even without M2 HMG)
AUBL and lekPz M41 have almost same Power Weight Ratio, so should be same BR (should be 6.3).
C13 T90 has slight bettter PWR, should be one step highter than lekPz M41 (should be 6.7).
Insignificant suggestion:
- about 7.0-9.7 BR slide, It seems better to make Vehicle list that “no BR increace vehicles”. many users saying “why xxxx BR increace?” and moderators have to say “as many of other vehicle do”. nonsense.
- It seems better to make separate list (usual BR change based on statics, and BR slide.
The C13 T90 is destroyed by a 50-calibre gun like the FIAT 6614 is destroyed by a 50-calibre gun plus the FIAT 6614 has a very slow turret traverse, their BR should not be touched, both vehicles are fine where they are at the moment at BR 6.3
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C13 T90 is fine at BR 6.7.
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FIAT 6614 is fine at BR 6.3.
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R3 T106 FA this vehicle has been nerfed too necessary, its real rating should be 7.3 in a realistic game and not 7.7. Typical example of how listening to haters has ruined the game.
R3 T106 FA is a vehicle that should suffer a BR decrease not a BR increase.
It can’t defend itself against aircraft, 50 cal can destroy it very easily, it has no stabiliser.
Just take the other vehicles with the same gun as a base for preliminary balancing and adjust the BR ±0.3 by looking at the vehicle’s main abilities.
T-114 br 7.3 (small fast tank 1 gun)
M50 ontos BR 6.7 (small tank 6 guns without crossbar)
Fiat 6614 BR 6.3 (fast armoured car 1 gun)
Type 60 BR 6.7 (small tank 2 guns)
R3 T106 FA should be BR 7.3 not 7.7.
Basically, the other vehicles are really close to 7.0 where R3 used to be.
As long as you do not adjust Ariete armour then it must suffer a decrease in BR.
Ariete PSO: Should be at 10.7 and not 11.3
Ariete C1: Should stand at 10.7 and not 11.3
Ariete AMV: Should stand at 10.7 and not 11.7
OTOMATIC: It is the worst high SPAA should stand at 10.7 and not 11.3.
AB 205 A-1 is the worst helicopter of all nations should stand at 7.0 and not 7.7.
Stop killing Italy already has few vehicles to play with you have completely ruined them by raising their br to prohibitive levels.
As for the Russian vehicles, these should be corrected immediately as they are broken vehicles that break the game balance:
- 2S38 is stronger than OTOMATIC should have their BR increased to 11.0
- BMP-2M is a high broken vehicle, which should undergo a BR increase to 10.3