Planned Battle Rating changes (table updated 04.08.2023)

patches upon patches, nothing changes, it’s like having a tube with a stopper in the middle, you don’t unclog anything, you’ve just pushed the stopper up a bit.
Quick solutions and with minimal effort, as always.
I increasingly believe that this road map is a story to keep the crowd happy, small changes here and there but nothing changes.

Well, this change doesn’t solve much either, wouldn’t it be easier and more effective to balance the tanks separately? Giving each one a BR based on their potential, because raising almost all the tanks makes those that remain in the original BR completely unbalanced.

I can’t understand why Israeli Merkava 3 would go to 11.0br. Have you ever played the Merkava 3 yourself? Even today, the Israeli combat ranks up to 10.7br are still incomplete, with no infantry tanks, no effective air defense, no missile vehicles, no fast cars, no novel cas, engines that have long lost their protection, backward thermal imaging, normal maneuvers, The only notable projectile was the m322, but with the 6.7s reload, it was no longer experienced in 10.7. I want to undo the br adjustment of Merkava 3 quickly

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The issue of the Merkava is curious, just knowing that they do not have the armor well modeled, making them weaker, they even raise the BR. And later, because the Merkava 3B has the same BR as the Merkava 3D when the D would have to be something more resistant due to the added armor, although I also imagine why, but as with the C2A1 Mexas, the additional armor is useless.

No it shouldnt be allowed to seal club the 8.7s again

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So where is the T-90A in the grand uptiering of 10.7 now?

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SU39/SU25T 11.3-11.0,
compared with MIG27K or Kunmas 2000, how could SU39/S25T in 11.3? 2 R60M in 11.3, what a joke. Vikhr has been nerf and hard to control as before.

Z10 add CM502KG
11.7? EXM? Is there anyone who believes it is better than KA52 or MI28NM? TY90 couldn’t lock this 2 helis lmao, AKD10 is just another Hellfire in fact, how could this Heli go to 11.7? just because camp the air respawn point? except for camp, what could Z10 do in top-tier battle?

T25 6.3-5.7
I don’t want to explain again, gaijin pls give us a reason why T25 could have same BR with M26 after getting rip of its stab.

XM1C 9.0 -9.3
I am pretty sure Gaijin forgot this guy because no one will accept that using bmp1 to fight with XM1C in 9.0 XD

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Jesus christ. Why are you uptiering Abrams tanks to 11.0 without raising the BR of things like t90a.
They dont belong in top tier with 1gen thermals and no armor even for a lot of 10.0 tanks, at least t90a has good thermals and meaningful armor with LWS.

BMP2M is still to low put it at 10.7 at least it is literally a top tier IFV on 10.0.

2S38 is still to low and with this BR changes all of their upbrs from previous time have been reverted. Well done again (sarcasm)

Turms t72a. also why is it not going up to 10.7 at least?

Also maybe move Ariette tanks lower? litterlly worse M1A1 at top tier

STOP favorising russia so much. Litterally no points of playing anything but Germany, USA and russia atm in this game, russian bias in not healthy for the game

We need higer BR cap for air and ground for a good start it will be 15.0 BR and rework of BRs

Aviation 9.3 still totally outclassing everything in a downtier and 11.0/11.3 jets absolutly unplayable 99% of the time due to mig29/f16/f14 RAISE THE GODDAMN BR CAPS

Game also needs different BR for air RB and ground RB. STOP REFUSING TO DO THIS. There is litteraly no logical excuse for not any of changes i just mentioned.

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How can you make this argument while arguing against separate BRs for aircraft in ARB and GRB in another thread?

Why would you need to first decompress ground BRs for aircraft if they don’t deserve different BRs between modes?

The recent additions I find are fine, only the swing fire I find a bit iffy~ since it suffers from the same problems as say the Type 60 ATM. But it is understandably better in that respect so I don’t know where to stand on it.

RB

Tornado IDS Marineflieger: 11.0 → 10.7
No guided bombs, few countermeasures, two missiles max and poor agility.
The F-4F has a higher bombload, Vulcan, great agility, more countermeasures, rockets and twice the missile load.
It’s better than the Tornado in every aspect except top speed.

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Why raise the BR of many 1st and 2nd generation MBTs?
The Centurion was originally rated two steps lower than the current BR.
If we raise the rates any further, the BR dissociation could have a negative impact on players’ vehicle research (e.g. BR 6.0 for the Centurion mk.1 would be followed by BR 7.7 for the Centurion mk.3).
Leopard 1 is in a difficult situation to begin with, and now it has been raised to an even more miserable BR!
It is very bad to have this phenomenon in a big state!
Don’t make the balance worse!

There ia no reason for HMS Glorious and HMS Invicinble being sent to 6.0, all battleship should be no lower than 6.3 and Glorious is just a CRUSIDER in history. In fact it can’t bear sttack from any 6.3 heavy crusider.

This one along with the Ta 152 C-3 last time around are baffling. I see both planes with such low frequency and when I do, they are never carrying a match or even surviving for the duration.

I spaded both and they are speedy boys but one trick ponies and very easily counter by a majority of the aircraft they face.

I’d love some feedback from Gaijin on why these planes were increased.

9.7 does not need to be seeing ty90’s hahah

Overall the changes are abit interesting but i would make some suggestions.

Rooikat MTTD: Should receive DM33, The grind on this vehicle is rather awful due to the only dart (DM23) being a rank 4 mod so I think a good option would be to make DM23 a rank 1-2 mod and add DM33 as a top shell for a rank 4 mod this would make it worth the 9.0 BR and also make it an easier vehicle to grind modifications for.

Leopard 1: should go to 7.7 or should be remodeled into a later model like 1A2 so it at least has a stabilizer and that would put it on par with the other vehicles its going to be with.

VFM-5: Should get either thermals or DM63 or stay at its current BR, being 9.7 in a vehicle that is basically a worse XM8 does not seem like a very good time so it should get something to compensate for that.(thermals would be the best option)

Thats about it for now if i think of anything else i will come back and add it.

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but why should they be moved up? just because a tank has a stabilizer doesnt mean its good. Centurions are one of my most played tanks, theyre slow, APDS barely has any post pen after the buff (it was a nerf to apds. + the armor isnt good against anything other than APCBC,APBC etc.

A few more suggest changes:

  1. M48A2 GA2. Suggested change: RB 8.0 to 8.3
    Reason: The firepower is way superior than the incoming new 8.0 tanks.Compare with American T95E1 that is going to 8.3,both have no stablizer,similar mobility, slightly worse armor in exchange for better firepower(DM23 APFSDS).Hence, this tank have no reason to stay at 8.0

2.ZTZ88A/B Suggested change: RB 8.7 to 9.0
Seems left behind by the BR change. If the inferior leo 1A1 and type74s should go to 9.0, these MBTS should follow them to 9.0 as well.

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true

Aviation Simulator: F2G / Current BR 6.7---->Moved to :6.0
Arguments:1)Uses only 50cal MGs while crushing majority of 6.7 use multiple cannons and mgs.
2)Gets destroied in energy and speed fights by jet fighers like YAK 15,ME262,Kikka,J21RA
3)Planes with similar performance sit at br 6.0 like :I225,YAK3U,TA152H,F8F,LA9,G56,Ju288 ,there is no argument for F2G to be 6.7 while these bunch are 6.0.
It is obvious that the F2G sim br needs to be updated just like the realistic br was some time ago.
PS: Very nice response time from the devs this time!Please don’t ingore my feedback just because I am the only one from what i’ve seen suggesting for air sim.

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