I would be concerned this pushes the f15ex into the far future or it gets dumbed down alot
AIR SIMULATOR BATTLES
F-20 Tigershark
12.7 - > 12.3
Yes, this thing exists! It’s battle rating is a relic of the past. No way it’s 12.7 worthy. The F-16AJ is at 12.7 (or will be?) and is better in all metrics. The USSR has the Yak-141 at 12.7! if you feel that the MiG-29 is worthy of 12.3, then there needs to be something for the blue forces to counter it. The F-20 is worse but it could at least counter it to some degree. And even if the MiG-29 would be at 12.7 it doesn’t deserve to be at the same battle rating.
MiG-21 Bison
12.3 → 12.0
Yes, I know it has the R-73 (with a bad IRCCM) but it’s just no competitive against the MiG-29 at 12.3 nor the Mirage 2000C-S4 at 12.3.
ALTERNATIVELY
Give it the R-77 and move it to 13.0. But it wouldn’t be competitive against the J-8F (All supersonic Fox-3 slingers should go to 13.3 minimum IMO. Just leave the Harriers and the M-346 at 13.0)…
COMMENTARY WITHOUT SUGGESTIONS
I can’t understand why the F-16CM and different MLUs are left at 13.7? They will be totally OP at that BR. The F-16 ADF is the perfect F-16 for 13.7 with the AIM-120A/B. In fact everything from 13.3 to 14.0 should be moved up a notch because they are balanced between themselves as they are (in SIM, taking into account the horrible Su-30 radar). The F-16I Sufa is not a very good 14.0 right now but it will be the king of 14.0 if you leave it there. I like to have something to abuse, so I’m not asking it to go up (And the JF-17 at 13.3!). Why was the Netz moved to 12.3 a while ago when it was the best out of all 12.7 F-16A’s with the Python 3? If it was some kind of a test, then you should’ve moved the others down too. Now it’s understandably going up but it leaves the blue forces without a counter to the MiG-29. The MiG-29 should really be moved back or have it’s R-27ER/ET removed.
yeah it being the same situation as the j-15 and 16 is not like a good thing, while yes its not the end of the world we shouldn’t just be ignoring poor placement or planning for imminent additions.
Either way I’m going to play it just like how i play the F16 even though its worse in all ways to the F15CGE at the same br.
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was listed as an option on bouth saab and mbda website.
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I could equally answer with three question marks. Did I say something factually incorrect or do you just disagree with my opinion (for example with my view of the IRCCM)?
MiG-23M/MF
11.0 → 10.7 (no change)
Change:
Remove R-60M/MK, Add R-60 as the top short range missile
at 10.7 it will have 6 All aspect missiles at the same BR as stuff like the Sea harrier FRS.1(e), Buccaneer S.2B, Hawk 200, and A-10A (Late), which all carry 2 or 4 missiles, and are vastly inferior in general
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It’s not that I disagree it was just not explained very well I didn’t quite get the point
Big fan of the changes across the board. Apart from some funny ones like the M41D.
Object279 just staying winning at 9.0
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My point is that the battle rating of 12.3 is too high for the MiG-21 airframe even though it has decent missiles. Particularly as it’s at the same battle rating as the MiG-29 with the R-27ER/ET and is it’s most competitive opponent.
Move F-104S.ASA down, why is it so high when theres so much better stuff just a br lower
THATS MY WORDS, i swear to god they do it on purpose to ruin our games
Wasn’t sure about the SPAA BR increases, but then i saw the CAS BR increases. Just some good decompression all round. Thank ye, Gaijin.
And they shoud fix the RWR which doesn’t have any directional capability. It’s basically just a like the beepers which F-4 pilots in Vietnam attached to the canopy. Why couldn’t they just give it the same directional capability as it’s predecessor if they didn’t have sources on it’s actual directional capability? Why would’ve they removed such a vital capability when the point of the ASA program was to UPGRADE the F-104S?
Mirage 2000 D-R1 113-12.3
I’m sorry what ?
It is supposed to fight PANTSIR SM SV in uptiers ?
Wih only laser guided weapons ?
Same BR as S1 and FK-2000 ?
Same BR as NOMADS ?
It is now killed
well except now you can’t lock anything lmao
T-72B move to 10.0, why this thing at 10.3
Worse than, T-72AV , T-72B (1989) and T-64B
irccm method is identical all the way to the seeker fovs for both 550 and 73. 550 accelerates faster, 73 maneuvers better. I don’t see a problem.
Also, Bison gets HMS to make use of maneuverability of the missile.
It will Pantsirs S1