@Stona_WT Hey Stona, Do we have another BR changes plan this year for lower BR? I noticed this time we almost ignored most of WWII and early Cold War tanks BR changes? (1.0-7.7)
What BRs at those BRs are not fit for purpose in your mind? they don’t just change BR for the sake of changing BR. They’ve targeted BRs this time that will decompress those lower BRs. Tanks at 7.0 will no longer face China 8.0 (which is now 8.3), for example. Tanks like the Maus are getting rid of dangerous foes (T58), etc.
I haven’t touched 8.3 Britain since they removed the APDS from Falcon. Might as well play 8.7, anyway.
I was spading the T-90M Arena the other day and people were spamming the BMPT at top-tier, anyway. It just fits at any BR. But I don’t think Gaijin will move it too high because it has the premium variant. Doubt anyone wants to see some lvl10 buying his way into a top-tier game. Ah heck… what am I saying? a new player can already buy their way into top-tier battles as it is, lol.
move all KV-1s up 2 steps to completely neuter them, just for one BR period. I need this catharsis
the falcon was still VERY dumb (provided it wasn’t a 9.3 game against the soviets), and you had the chieftain marksman for that slot as well. 8.3 britain was generally a good time other than games against america and uptiers against the soviets.
playing 9.7 uptiers with only the chieftain’s regular APDS counts as cruel and unusual punishment
cant agree more. hope it does get those aim-26s prob should be 9.7 br in arcade. maybe 9.7 in rb too? or should it be 10.0 in arcade?
Better missiles? only under 10km
Better flight model? uhh, since when?
Also, 1v1s are rare in Air RB, most of the time its 30km shots getting you kills. The Typhoon far exceeds the rafale in that, most top tiers do actually
I dont think the MIG-27M should be the same br as the K for ground same for the SU-17M4 they perform just fine at 11.0, i could understand putting yoh at a higher BR for bringing ARM’s but the planes themselves shouldn’t change.
Its not too bad, everything else is going up around them.
Supermarine Swift F.1 and F.7
F1. 8.3 —> 8.0
F7 8.7 —> 8.3
Both of these planes are now to the point where they are near impossible to play due to extreme power creep, and now they are going to be facing more MIG-21s, and other supersonic and trans sonic missile armed craft they have no right fighting.
I do not know why they didn’t go down years ago with the F-86s and MIG-15s, but here we are.
They need to go down, especially now that you have nerfed their Flap/Airbrake combo’s. Before hand you could get some VERY juicy overshoots with those things, But due to the speed limits now placed on their deployment, its a Null and void idea, and they can’t really do much else, they are slower than everything else at their BR, turn worse, Have low velocity guns that are mounted low making them hard to aim, and all around its just a bad time.
olifant + warrior + v*ckers 3 + as90 + plane would have been a solid lineup but now you have to play 9.7 games semi-frequently to play the olifant :(
rooivalk from 11.7 to 12.3? What?
z19 and z19e from 11.7 to 12.3? What?
Are we deadass bro, they are both dead already,why it should be in the same br as z10 when z10 is better in every aspect.
EC-665 TIGER HAP, from 10.0 to 10.7 with hot 3? Is this trolling?
Lynx with nerfed zoom in 11.3? What are this changes bruh?
(If heli really goind up to this br’s in nuclear mode then ok, if they going up to this br in grb then change this br’s to normal ones)
AJS37 at 11.7 what? It is a yoke,a yoke.
Mig25PEDO is still at 11.0 in arb, what the point?
A6E TRAM from 11.0 to 11.7 to fight pantsir s1 every game. What? HOW? Can you explain to me, i want to know.
AMX from 11.0 to 11.7 with less weaponry that a6e LUL.
SU30MKK and MK2 are not the same br at GRB? Just give MK2 same ARM’s and put them both at 13.0.
Kfir Canard and A5C in ARB should not be at 11.3 and 11.0 at all. It’s not even fair to move a5c when it has ONLY 2 missiles and j7d have 4 of them and overall better frame.
Pantsir s1 and fk2000 are not 12.7 is a crime.
Centauro 120 and Centauro RGO should stay on where they are with Challengers too.
T80UM2 probably should stay where it is. It has no thermals at 12.0, what the point?
QN506 is a death trap and you give him 0.3 more br? One more yoke
PGZ09 somehow got +0.7 br for nothing. If you move everything around it, move it like everything else to +0.3.
SK105-A2 can stay at 8.7. There is no stab.
WZ305 to 8.3. Why? It should stay where it is.
XM1’s should get a new shell if they are going to 9.7
ZSU-57-2 but able to shoot drones effectively? Pretty solid. Probably didn’t need to move up but you won’t see me complaining, I despise the Zussy and the dubzee
I was going to debate, but then I realised I haven’t used the Mk3/Mk5 since 2021, lol. I’d rather uptier the ZA-35 than play 8.7.
Yup. WZ305 is fantastic. China 8.0 was always going to go up eventually. I’m more surprised it took them so long to move China 8.0 to 8.3.
QN506 is just there to dunk on some helicopters. Makes sense to move up to where more helicopters are likely to spawn, anyway. You should be asking why the M41D is moving up yet again.
It can do quite a lot, at least until all the ammo burns. Think it is totally fair to move any fnf missile launcher up if like 50% of all vehicles are also moving up
Once again, you are wrong. Images and documents show how widescale US DU rounds were used in 1991.
Image A) M833 rounds laid out next to an M1IP:

Image B) M900A1 round with an M1IP:
Image C) US crewman loading M829 in his M1A1:
Image D) Table showing how many high power DU rounds the US sent to the Gulf from the book M60 vs T-62: Cold War Combatants 1956–92:
Documents and images also showed the US conducted live fire with DU rounds in the Saudi Desert to prepare crews for its use when the hostilities in Iraq kicked off as this picture here shows.
221 Challenger 1 were sent to Iraq in 1991. Each vehicle had L26A1 rounds in its ammunition complement. Sure they weren’t as widescale as US DU rounds at the time, but they were still present across the British tank fleet and more were on the way. 221 CR1 is nearly all Challenger 1 currently in service with the British Army at the time, so in a percentages sake, yes L26A1 was in widescale usage.
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and these are in no way equivalent to 9.3 tanks like Leopard 1A5, they’re not even outstanding at 9.0 - tanks like ZTZ-88A and ZTZ-88B are simply better. They’re re at best equivalent to M60A3 TTS at 9.0 or Type 74 at 9.0, being around similar mobility, stab, protection and penetration wise to M60 counterpart, with Type 74 being worse protected but having better shell than mist of these and better forward mobility/depression.
The only 9.0 tank that should be raised is XM803, since it’s just outright better than all of mentioned tanks here and it doesnt deserve to be 0.7 lower than MBT-70/Kpz-70/XM-1.
BR Change T-69 II 9.0 to 9.3
I really dont understand this change when ztz88s stay at the same br while this increases. ztz88s are better in everyway to T-69 II
Oh I was just replying to the genius idea that spawning a plane is somehow the solution to everything. When it often seems to turn into being useless the entire match. Although it seems like this os only an issue at around 9.7 because matches at lower BRs and top tuer always had planes when I played on that same day.
Move the 2S38, T-80UD and Trums too PLEASE.
BRs below are going up, yet they are staying. It’s a double buff!



