the rwr irst and maw says no
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Could you please explain why the Oplot—lacking proper armor and adequate reactive protection—is being placed at 12.7? Do you guys even play your own game, or what?
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premium su30s need to go to 14.0 if the su27sm goes to 14.0 otherwise this is a nothingburger change.
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ok cool?
it’s still 16v16 air rb
higher missile count AND the ability to shoot from the notch matter more
Too bad your gear ratios are so trash you will spend more time changing gears than actually accelerating
Su-27SM is significantly better than the premium flankers
They can not be the same br ever
Su-27SM DOES need to be 14.3 though
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Okay i’ve run out of argument. Let’s just see how things goes after BR change implemented.
But still, I disagree that 2 Rafale should be at the same BR… What for? Same vehicle, same armament with a slight weight difference… just don’t get it.
Pantsir S1
12.0 → 12.7~13.0
Having near hypersonic high G overload missiles with an invisible to rwr tracking radar at its rxisting BR was already overpowered. Now instead of already fighting hornets and vipers (and still winning), its fighting early A-10s and tornadoes.
Should be much further increased. The tunguska will be fine coverage until the 12.7 bracket.
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zsu-23-4m4 missing from the list for some reason, while santal, type 93, pgz04 etc. all are going up.
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That said it’d be more balanced for the Su-30mk2s to be same br with 27sm than with the literal ADFs though.
Bf 110 C-6 GRB (Not Air) 3.0 → 2.0
Reason: The better C-7 is 2.7 which is better because: Armored glass, can carry bombs and has 2x 20mm Mg FF/M and faster while the C-6 cant have bombs has no 20mm and is fixed with the 30mm Mk 101. In comparison the Hs 129 B-2 which is also at 2.3 has more armor, 2x 20mm Mg 151/20 and 2x Mg 17 (instead of 4x Mg 17) and a Mk 103 with 100 instead of 60 rounds and higher fire rate. It overall exchanges most of it offencive firepower for a better flightperformance. It is in comparisson to other planes in its class also rather limited in armor, beeing limited to 4x MGs and 1x cannon with limited ammo. In AIR RB it can stay at 3.0 i suppose, as a bomber hunter with Minengeschoss.
Even now the G-2 is moving down to 3.0 in Ground Battles, which is also just an upgrade.
j7d and nf5a can stay 10.7 but the a5c goes to 11.0 in air rb, alright. If you do these kind of br changes you just might as well keep it the same as it is right now.
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that slight weight difference means nothing
If you want I can take my normal rafale and joust your AESA euro and see how well you do
Then add the weight that the fat rafale has (by increasing fuel load) and see that the added weight changes nothing
You’re spewing absolute garbage. What do you mean by “worse kinematics”? J-11B is lighter and has more powerful engines so its faster. pl-8 and pl-5 are significantly better than R-73 which is literally the worst iccrm missile and ridiculously easy to flare off, pl-12 is better than R-77 after the buffs, the radar is far better than the microwave on Su-27
Mentioning 2-3 kd as if that’s a bad number yet its way above average and perfectly okay stats. Looking at a strangers stats to use them to discount their point is really really cringe and childish behavior. Its just a game. Touch some grass
NASAMS (US + SW)
13.0 → 12.7
Absolutely unusable search radar with mediocre radar missiles and reskinned AIM9Ls doesnt deserve to be nearly comprable to top tier SPAAs
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Bf 110 C-7 GRB (Not Air) 2.7 → 2.3
Reason: Moving the classic plane down, keeping it in line with the other (improved) models, and giving it a reason to be even used, as already other better planes are available at the BR. Overall its offensive armarment is ok, being 2x MG FF/M and 4x MG 17, however the penetration of the 20mm are lacking and it doesnt have the 2x 20mm MG 151/20 gunpod of the F-2, as such it is mostly relying on its bombs.
Even now the G-2 is moving down to 3.0 in Ground Battles, which is also just an upgrade.
same plane = same BR
It’s heavier and the engines are worse at altitude.
J-11B does not carry pl-5s. PL-8s also have the worst gimbal of any fox 2s at this BR.
They have the same IRCCM FOV of 0.75.
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