I agree but their issue is those low velocity guns… All me262 and similar jets at this BR with mk108 need to be looked at… Atleast lift the velocity from 500 m/s to 650 m/s or something…
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L2A4 isn’t worth having 11.0BR without DM33
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No, it needs 15.0
It’s effectively as powerful as the AESA euro due to having Fox-3s with no launch limits, metric crapton of those missiles and BOL
it’s 500kg difference
Means NOTHING outside highly skilled duelling environments
The actual shell speed of the MK108 is 556, so it’s reasonable to boost it a bit.
No, that’s not a reason for changing a vehicle’s br
We adjust brs based on how it is NOW, potential changes or additions don’t matter
There is no point in playing F-16A ADF anymore because:
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The entire German ME262 aircraft family needs to be lowered by 0.3 BR, without the premise of having a 556 m/s shell velocity
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100%. Not to mention the T-90A and T-72B3 “Arena” are at 11.0 and not getting moved up despite having 3BM60 which goes thru Leo 2A4s like butter
Okay you say something, BUT as I said, if this happens France still lacks 14.3 and 14.7…
What do you think? Maybe if they remove AESA radar from Rafale M and give RBE2 PESA radar so its nearly equivalent to all three Eurofighter with Mechanical radar at 14.7
Vehicles: TKX & Type 10
Gamemode: Ground RB
BR Change: 12.7 → 13.3 13.0
Reason: With the maximum ground-vehicle BR now being 13.3, there is no longer a reason to keep these two subpar vehicles at the highest BR, where they’re outclassed by essentially any contemporaries (I mean, who are we kidding? M1A1 HC and M1A2 for example are already vastly superior to these vehicles and that at a now-planned BR of 12.3…)
The shorter reload compared to other MBTs does not compensate for these vehicles being worse in virtually all other relevant ways.
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Yes, in reality, L2A4 might have been very OP in BR during the late Cold War, but in 11.0 BR it’s absolutely useless without the DM33, and the DM23 can’t penetrate any Warsaw Pact vehicles.
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TCM ags is still 12.0 I assume, can you atleast give it M900 or lower its be back to 11.3 (11.7 now ig)
b-b-but its reallyyyyy fast and has speed reload!!!
I agree in the T-72B3 case, it deserves to go up, but the T-90A and ZTZ-99 II/III are fine as it is.
ok?
That’s entirely irrelevant
It still won’t be “nearly” equivalent
It will completely steamroll the eurofighters because it has MICA and ESA radar
Won’t matter if it’s PESA or AESA.
It will steamroll
These changes look like one big joke: the Kurnass 2000’s BR in GRB is 12.7? Higher than early F-18s and F-16s, and even the Gripen A. On the other hand, they’re raising all tanks by 0.3+ steps except for ‘very weak’ Soviet tanks like the T-80UD, 2S38, T-90, T-72B3, T-72B3A… And on top of that, the regular Phantom E in combined battles at 12.0 being higher than the Su-24M and MiG-27K looks like an absolute farce.
F-111F
GRB
11.7->11.7
Doesnt deserve an uptier at all. Having 6 mavericks as the maximum possible CAS payload is nowhere near good enough to be using as 12.3 CAS, facing SPAA and other CAS aircraft that absolutely demolish it in comparison.
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Vehicle: VT4
Gamemode: Ground Realistic
BR Change: 12.7 —> 12.3
Reason: Looking at the ZTZ99A going to 12.7, VT4 is just worse compare to 99A at every aspects. Worse mobility, worse protection. And if you play them both, you would know that it already suffers with the current BR for VT4 at 12.3. And I don’t see a point of raising this thing to 12.7. When I’m on the other side of the team it just feels really easy to destroy this thing. And I don’t see a problem of being at 12.3 as well even against 11.3 vehicles, they can still easily compete with this VT4.
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May I know in what universe this:
Is equivalent to this?:
VT-4 has nothing over 99A or WZ to justify it going with them to 12.7, it has been a constant complain that the vehicle is overtiered and has no redeeming factors over any of those 2, it should have a decrease in BR to go with MBT-2000 considering that it has no tech tree lineup and the rest of vehicles are paywalled
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