Simple, look at player stat distribution:
the global alltime average kill per spawn is 0.6, with most of the playerbase sitting there.
Bad players simply outnumber the good ones.
2S38 is definitely good
will be fine at 10.7
too situational to be op really
That will be in-part because the BMD-4s should probably be 10.3 but are at 9.7 and destroy everything
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same brs it just prevents non stablized tanks fighting stablized MBTs cause its just op
Im not talking about good players or average players. I don’t judge anyone’s skill. Everyone plays to the best of their ability. I’m saying that lack of baseline features shouldnt be compensated by only players skill. And if 9.3 tanks suffer so much - its time for global decompression. About armor: even Gepard from 8.3 can kill T-80UD aiming the commanders hatch, I`m not talking about standard hitting the barrel or drivers hatch and the dense layout of the tank in general. And of course, 10.7 means very often 11.7 uptier - very comfortable for tank with only -4km/h reverse and lack of thermal sight.
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2S38 is already not that good because how fragile it, and with it decent damage.
Now when this thing will be uptiered to 11.7, it will be almost useless, it would have absolutely 0 chances while facing 1v1 with any tank
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I encounter them all the time in 11.7+ matches and they always do just fine, good even
Can we please consider moving the AMX A1A (and TT AMX realistically) down in BR? In ARB it gets beat to bases by tornados and people bombing in mig23s and shit and in GRB you just get upteired into dealing with SPAA that can target you from spawn and you have LGBs as your best option at 11.0 while there are actively 10.3s in the game for multiple nations with Fire and forget AGMs or LGMs, larger payloads, and even better missiles. The MiG 29 also could use some love, but that’s another complaint. The A1A is not better than the TT because the missiles look better on paper but perform the same or worse than the 9Ls and doesn’t need to be 11.0. I think both could be 10.3 and you’d still have A10s and SU25s outperforming them but it would be a much better area to be in than current state.
I can say extremely fragile. Unmanned turret doesnt save this tank unlike PUMAs indestructible turret. Mobility is also not the best. And I even forgot when I saw nuke on 2S38 last time.
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They don’t though.
but once again, its not just like T-80UD is only lacking. It also offers stuff over its competitors - that being armor, 6 sec reload out of the box, and relatively good shell and good forward mobility. You, either intentionally or unintentionally (I give you benefit of the doubt and say its the former) completly overlook these.
Hey I can make such argument too.
Leopard 2A7V can be disabled by well placed shot from WW2 soviet 122mm gun into the back of the turret, ergo Leopard 2A7Vs BR must be lowered!
It is doable. Proper positioning fixes these issues.
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M735 btw.
Ctrl + F J-7D and upvote all the other posts plz!
I mean youre obviously not standard player, and I can deal with T-80UD playing Abrams too (just not as well or regularly as you).
This however does not detract from the fact that the armor profile of T-80UD is good for its BR. Sure it has weakspots, but so does Leopard 2A7V.
(Do you have some custom crew voices by the chance?)
I don’t mind the A-5C going back to 10.3. But I would add PL-7 to the Q-5L and take it to the same BR as the A-5C.
No reason for Q-5A & Q-5L to be same BR.
It has good armor yes, but it has many flaws that prevent it from being any higher than 10.7 in my books (so it doesn’t face 9.3)
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7.7 is not enough. Take em to 7.3. They are not on par with the 7.7 Meteor F Mk.4 G.41F.
Im well aware of those.
Well then I am lucky I am arguing for it to go to 10.7.
Any higher, with current BR placements and top BR, wouldnt make sense, seeing as there is still the T-80UD/BE and T 80 U below the standard T-80U.
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Also, add PL-7 to the Q-5L and bring it to 10.3 to match the A-5C.
In vacuum of course KV-122 can kill leopard 2A7V. But I`m talking about real game. Armor of T-80UD is good, agree, but with -4km/h reverse speed will it help a lot against sniper shots into the breech for example? Also dense layout increases the chance of a one-shot. 6 sec reloading speed isnt unique on this br. Mobility isnt worst, sure, but for example Leopard will take good position much faster, especially on large hilly map. Maybe we talking about different games, but today even very average player knows weak spots of all soviet MBTs. Oh sure, “suffering” 9.3 tanks also kill T-80UD and quite often. Baseline features of the tank must match its BR. Not all eSports players, not all play on minimum settings, and I wouldn’t want to stare at the screen with all my might, trying to spot among the bushes another Leopard, hung with bushes, who has long since taken up position and is waiting for me like in a shooting gallery. Especially on 11.7 uptier.