in essence, no. but you, as many others, highligh the advantages of the enemies while dismissing the advantages T-80UD has.
That being armor, 6 sec reload independent on crew level, and relatively good shell for BR.
I usually avoid the argument that “you havent played it” because I do believe it does detract from discussion, you can form an opinion on something just from facing it.
However in your case its not just that you havent played anything BUT russia, youre not even good at playing russia.
I actually highlighted issues with T-80UD in my very own BR change suggestion in this thread, so im just gonna copy why I believe T-80UD needs to go higher:
Id highly suggest for you to go out and actually try facing T-80UD in any other 10.3/10.7 tank. You will find that the armor scheme does hold well against most rounds, whereas the combo of relatively good shell, 6sec autoloader and mobility allows you to play very aggresively.
In fact I have to confine that 90% of my battles with T-80UD were done with stock crew and I havent purchased expert crew up until very recently
Agree that newcomers buy top-tier tanks and losing against experienced players. But also 2S38 exists in this game not 1st day and many experienced players have it already. So why KD is still so bad and not many players use this tank? Looking at real possibilites, besides good armor penetration 2S38 is very mediocre and definitely not OP. Just as toxic as many other tanks. Tbh, bmd-4 from 9.7 feels better than 2S38.
Im not talking about good players or average players. I don’t judge anyone’s skill. Everyone plays to the best of their ability. I’m saying that lack of baseline features shouldnt be compensated by only players skill. And if 9.3 tanks suffer so much - its time for global decompression. About armor: even Gepard from 8.3 can kill T-80UD aiming the commanders hatch, I`m not talking about standard hitting the barrel or drivers hatch and the dense layout of the tank in general. And of course, 10.7 means very often 11.7 uptier - very comfortable for tank with only -4km/h reverse and lack of thermal sight.
2S38 is already not that good because how fragile it, and with it decent damage.
Now when this thing will be uptiered to 11.7, it will be almost useless, it would have absolutely 0 chances while facing 1v1 with any tank
I can say extremely fragile. Unmanned turret doesnt save this tank unlike PUMAs indestructible turret. Mobility is also not the best. And I even forgot when I saw nuke on 2S38 last time.
but once again, its not just like T-80UD is only lacking. It also offers stuff over its competitors - that being armor, 6 sec reload out of the box, and relatively good shell and good forward mobility. You, either intentionally or unintentionally (I give you benefit of the doubt and say its the former) completly overlook these.
