the rarden is 30x170, the russian ones is 30x165, the rounds itself is actually quite similar but the rarden has slightly higher muzzle velocity, the issue is that they still have the old model for the apds, like when the apds from the bradley used to pen 110mm, the thing is that the penetration every other round got updated aside of the rarden.
This was the stats of the old 25mm apds as you can see it was nearly the exact same performance as the current rarden 30mm apds
absolutely.
T-80UD will be fine, any issues are player sided.
Im sorry but this is a absolutely Horrible Decision.
The Cheiftains are not worthy of fighting 10.3s. Unless you want to give them their THERMALS that you refuse to acknowledge existed.
The Chieftain Mk10, and 900, at 9.0 are arguably some of THE most balanced tanks in the game.
And yet the one British vehicle that ACTUALLY needs moved down, that being the AJAX, there is no sign of that.
And there’s no need to raise the BR of all these Gepards, Shilks, and their brood, right??? They don’t bother anyone???
Heli PvE is broken at higher BRs - Rank 6 helis have to approach 4-6 km to fire ATGMs, while Rank 7 helis with FnF missiles have already fired and switched to engaging planes. It clearly needs a massive rebalance.
2S38 isn’t OP at 10.3 - it’s toxic, yes, but survivability is low: a hit to its unmanned turret almost always kills it, unlike PUMA’s near-indestructible turret. Mobility is average, gun depression is only −5°, and auto-tracker/proximity shells aren’t unique at this BR.
The only real advantage is APFSDS penetration, but that alone doesn’t make it overpowered. It still requires flanking to kill MBTs, and with low survivability and average mobility, performing well in this tank is not easy.
Looking at statistics this month, ground frags per death is only 1.02 in RB - even the PUMA has 1.05.
its also a premium, making it more accesible and by rule of thumb, having much lower average KD.
With the right buffs… Its fine
Without, yeah its gunna be rough. Especailly with the current slow reload and the massively under BRed soviet stuff at 9.7-10.3
No. keep it how it is, and keep it 9.0.
It doesn’t need buffed. Its in a GOOD spot, its turret armor works, it gun works, the mobility isn’t a huge issue.
It is in the PERFECT spot, it even fights alot of vehicles that CAN easily kill it.
Id always prefer accurately modeled and balanced accordingly than nerfed to bodge a perticular BR
The best change ever falcon and amx-30 I wish no APDA for all SPAA
it is accurate.
The ONLY thing that could be changed is the Round.
But that is IT.
The HP the guy sited is COMPLETELY WRONG. The L60 NEVER made more than 760HP when mounted in a Tank, the AVRE/engineer vehicles did get a Higher output engine due to needing to tow things and such, But that was EXCLUSIVE to them, as they weighed less and the strain on the engine and transmission was less, allowing them to squeeze out a bit more power. And the 760hp was only in the Mk11 Chieftains that had some SLIGHT improvements to the engine.
the reload is just a soft factor Gaijin uses to balance ALL the time. the Cheiftain Mk10 as is is a PERFECT vehicle. there is no need to buff it, nerf it, move it up, or move it down. Leave it how it is, and WHERE it is.
quiet boyo. no nerfs.
Sure, a skilled player can manage, but balance shouldn’t rely on top-tier skill to compensate for missing baseline features like thermals or decent reverse. Overexperienced player on T-80UD can kill tanks even at 12.7 battles. T-80B with thermal sight, -11km/h reverse and 1100 hp for 43 tons on 10.7 also performs well. Should it be moved to 11.0 according to this logic? What about decompression? Not moving good tanks to higher br making them less viable but lowering br for weaker tanks to make them also viable.
It could literally sit at 11.3 with the TOR :|
very nice stats
I have been told by a forum moderator this is the most ideal thing to do
This has also been a rule in the past iirc
Not to mention the hull is about as tall as an MBT, making the depression worse
