Proposal: BR Increase for BMPT and BMPT-72 (Ground RB)
I would like to raise further balance concerns regarding the BMPT and BMPT-72 in War Thunder, specifically their survivability and combat effectiveness relative to their current BR placement.
Proposed BR change:11.3 → 12.0
Outlive MBTs at higher BRs
Outperform IFVs in both survivability and lethality
Have fewer exploitable weak spots than almost any armored vehicle in the game
Yeah even 11.3 feels high for the AGS but i thought it was the lowest i could reasonably ask from 12.0 to be moved down to. And if they listen and it still underperforms maybe next round it could go lower because i dont see much reason for it to be higher than the striker/booker
Some of these are good some arent. Here’s what i’d add:
T-55A to 8.7
Object-906 to 8.3
Object-685 to 9.0
T-55AMD (and AM-1) as well as the T-62AM to 9.3
Olifant Mk.1 at 9.0 or at least 8.7
Vickers Mk 1 at 8.3
Turm III to 9.0
And i would also buff the reloads of things like the FV-4005 and the T-32’s, maybe some late IS tanks as well
Also Tiger II at 7.0 please
When you will move the T-80UD? It will be currently on the same BR with T-64B meanwhile having much better armor with KONTAKT-5 and better mobility. I propose move the T-80UD to 10.7
They are fine at 9.0.
The T-55AMD and AM-1 don’t even get good APFSDS unlike the T-62AM1, almost purely relying on a non-tandem ATGM.
8.7 if anything.
Olifant isn’t really mobile and has no armour.
I agree with this.
9.0 with no APFSDS doesn’t seem to make sense.
8.7 seems fine for it.
I agree with this.
Maybe a 10s reload for the T32s and ~16/18s for the IS-3/IS-4/IS-6.
FV-4005 could get a reload buff but I’m not sure by how much.
Sure, but a lot of other 6.7s would need to go up so that decompression can happen at ~5.3-6.3.
That would also unfortunately compress the 7.0-8.0 range.
Chances of any of those happening = 0. KT to 7.0 is fine, though.
IS-2/IS-3/IS-4 need the reload buff, yes. Especially IS-3 which just gets autocannoned to death so damn easy. I actually feel sorry for IS-3 players when I run into them with the Flakpanzer. IS-2 gives me more trouble.
Sd.Kfz.6/2 GRB 2.3 → 2.0 while it is relatively good, the push in up tiers to 3.3 is just bad and compared to the 40mm L/60 that can also be found at 2.3, it has lower AP performance (tbf APHE is a bonus). Puting it at 2.0 would improve the line up making, especially if you dont want to use 20mm guns.
Vehicle: BMPT , BMPT 72 Gamemode: Realistic Battle BR Change: 11.3—> 12.0 Reason: still way too op to destroy because damage model is incorrect and vehicles with 105mm guns cant do anything againts those vehicles because on the start armor and spall liner eating everything.
Vehicle: M1 ABRAMS, ABRAMS KVT Gamemode: Arcade & Realistic BR Change: 10.7 Reason: Give better shell because its ridiculous when leo 2, t80 ud and other vehicles have better shells than abrams