Planned Battle Rating Changes (January 2026)

Proposal: BR Increase for BMPT and BMPT-72 (Ground RB)

I would like to raise further balance concerns regarding the BMPT and BMPT-72 in War Thunder, specifically their survivability and combat effectiveness relative to their current BR placement.

Proposed BR change: 11.3 → 12.0

  • Outlive MBTs at higher BRs
  • Outperform IFVs in both survivability and lethality
  • Have fewer exploitable weak spots than almost any armored vehicle in the game

There is no other vehicle at 11.3 that combines:

  • MBT-level (or better) survivability
  • IFV-level versatility
  • ATGM-level lethality
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Yeah even 11.3 feels high for the AGS but i thought it was the lowest i could reasonably ask from 12.0 to be moved down to. And if they listen and it still underperforms maybe next round it could go lower because i dont see much reason for it to be higher than the striker/booker

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Some of these are good some arent. Here’s what i’d add:
T-55A to 8.7
Object-906 to 8.3
Object-685 to 9.0
T-55AMD (and AM-1) as well as the T-62AM to 9.3
Olifant Mk.1 at 9.0 or at least 8.7
Vickers Mk 1 at 8.3
Turm III to 9.0
And i would also buff the reloads of things like the FV-4005 and the T-32’s, maybe some late IS tanks as well
Also Tiger II at 7.0 please

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When you will move the T-80UD? It will be currently on the same BR with T-64B meanwhile having much better armor with KONTAKT-5 and better mobility. I propose move the T-80UD to 10.7

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Or Just give it aim7m and aim9L and f14B aim7mh(or aim7p) with aim9m

Proposal: BR Increase for Alpha Jet (Thailand) in Ground RB BR 9,7 ->10,3

The Alpha Jet (Thailand) is currently the only aircraft below BR 10.3 that is equipped with all-aspect air-to-air missiles (AIM-9P-4).

This creates an immediate imbalance because:

  • Most aircraft it faces at lower BRs do not have flares
  • Many lack adequate RWR or situational awareness tools
  • They were never designed to counter all-aspect IR missiles

At 9.7, this is already questionable. In Ground RB, it becomes far more problematic.

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My bad

F-104 ASA,TAF and S need to be lowered in BR for air battles too
Also the Otomatic should be 10.7

Not that i expect for gaijin to stop hating italy in my lifespan tho

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Yeah it would be much better if they got 9L and 9M respectively

It’s not that good.

Yeah maybe.

It’s good but 9.0 might be pushing it.

They are fine at 9.0.
The T-55AMD and AM-1 don’t even get good APFSDS unlike the T-62AM1, almost purely relying on a non-tandem ATGM.

8.7 if anything.
Olifant isn’t really mobile and has no armour.

I agree with this.

9.0 with no APFSDS doesn’t seem to make sense.
8.7 seems fine for it.

I agree with this.
Maybe a 10s reload for the T32s and ~16/18s for the IS-3/IS-4/IS-6.
FV-4005 could get a reload buff but I’m not sure by how much.

Sure, but a lot of other 6.7s would need to go up so that decompression can happen at ~5.3-6.3.
That would also unfortunately compress the 7.0-8.0 range.

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Chances of any of those happening = 0. KT to 7.0 is fine, though.

IS-2/IS-3/IS-4 need the reload buff, yes. Especially IS-3 which just gets autocannoned to death so damn easy. I actually feel sorry for IS-3 players when I run into them with the Flakpanzer. IS-2 gives me more trouble.

Submit a bug report if it had them

Sd.Kfz.6/2 GRB 2.3 → 2.0 while it is relatively good, the push in up tiers to 3.3 is just bad and compared to the 40mm L/60 that can also be found at 2.3, it has lower AP performance (tbf APHE is a bonus). Puting it at 2.0 would improve the line up making, especially if you dont want to use 20mm guns.

i promise you if falcon had been in a major nation you would

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f2a adtw should have a lower br or get fox 3, in 13.0 you face su30 premiums constantly so my proposal is 12.7 or keep in 13.0 with aim120a

lol what, f16a with aim120 is 13.3 and it has less missles and worse flightmodel

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Vehicle: BMPT , BMPT 72
Gamemode: Realistic Battle
BR Change: 11.3—> 12.0
Reason: still way too op to destroy because damage model is incorrect and vehicles with 105mm guns cant do anything againts those vehicles because on the start armor and spall liner eating everything.

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Ok but its 103mm pen aphe at 5.3 thats tiger territory, not mentioning is2s and jagdpanthers

Just put it at 12.7 and give it APDSFS

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Vehicle: M1 ABRAMS, ABRAMS KVT
Gamemode: Arcade & Realistic
BR Change: 10.7
Reason: Give better shell because its ridiculous when leo 2, t80 ud and other vehicles have better shells than abrams

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