It’s arguably the best SPAA at 10.7, next to the Strela.
Not hard to be the best at 10.7 when you’re the only one there.
MTTD has Gen 1 Thermals
I put it here as a reply to one comment but these are all the things i would change currently
I think that chieftains moving up is not that big of a deal for the vehicle. Idk about 900 but the chieftain mk.10 is super awesome and I love every single game in it.
Id like to address the elefant in the room…T72B3 11.3 and arena at 11.0…this are super strong and heavily armoured tanks and the difference between them is basically - B3 has slightly better engine, Arena has APS. There is no reason for both of thsm to be 11.3, both should be 11.7 to make the lineup better, you have 3 T80s there and the vehicles are much more capable than 11.3.
Super sabre 9.3 France
Another obvious thing id like to point out is Super saber for France at 9.3 - taiwanese supersaber is the same BR, has flares, AIM9Es and is slightly slower. French one has no flares, AIM9bs, essentially same speed. There is no reason for French one to be at 9.3
AGS 12.0 USA
Ags is bad light at 12.0 and the main reason for it is that it has 9.0 round M833 fighting T90Ms. It went up in BR in last changes by 0.7 and still no M900. Just give it the M900 alredy and see how it performs. You cant even pen the breage of T80U currently and driver port is 50/50 chance to pen. Not mentioning the possibility of nonpening T80s LFP on 500M
Vautor class 9.0 France
Vautor class of aircrafts is something gaijin hates in the game since they were used to grind events fast. Gaijin made the vehicle usless few updates back and basically wasted 60% for anyone owning it. You have a big, super slow aircraft that turns like god damn locomotive, no flares, no AAM (the jewish one has 4 that are worse AIM-9Bs which you cant use cos you cant turn and you are slow), no balistic computer, relatively awarage bomb load (1.5 Bases) and for your offensive capability you have 30mms (actually good, but everyone has 30mms and A model doest even have guns at all) and the worst part is it has ground spawn. You have absolutly 0 chance to bomb a base in a match. Cant fly high cos migs will eat you, cant fly low cos everything else will eat you…just usless vehicles. So pelase give it airspawn back
T58 8.3 USA
This thing is absolutly dominating every 8.3 to 9.3 match it joins. It shold definitly go up bu 0.3 or even 0.7 and would be completly fine
T80UD 10.3 USSR
Ok another straight up OP vehicle we are refusing to nerf because its premium and generates a looot of money. That thing is a 10.7 easily 11.0 vehicle, T80U its essentially stock T80U in performance
Chi-Nu II 4.3 Japan
This thing is essentially panzer 4 H with much worse armour and is 0.6 BRs higher. There is not reason for it to be this high, also it has no decent line up cos if you uptoer your other stuff it wont be competetivly useful. Chi Nu I (3.7) has 103mm of pen and exposed breache cos its a field canon…Na to (3.3) milk box… just put jt at 4.0 or 3.7 to make it usefull for once
Freccia OWS 30 10.7 Italy
This thing is straight up upgrade in every way to normal frecia and both sit at same BR. There is no reason for that. Put the squadron one at 11.0 you will still run the same line up but balancewise it would make more sense
Somua SM 7.7 France
Yeah OP 8.0 vehicle thats under BRd because of premium status, nothing to say here.
E.B.R1953 (5.3) and AMX-13 FL11 (4.3)
Both are up BRd lights that are essentially bad chaffe at much higher BR. Just put them both 0.6 BR down, no reason why AMX shoul be higher than chaffe and ok EBR is fast so 1.0 difference…not really justified by me but sure
M1 Abrams IP 11.3 USA
And last thing, IP abrams, this thing is fightimg BMPts with 105mm gun and 10.7 armour, i dont see a reason for it to not go 11.0 even 10.7 if T72B3 should go to 11.0
From reaserch perspective I dont really see a reason for Taiwanese M60s to be separated in TT. Make them folder since they are just a modification.
Also the trees are geting messy again and i think further foldering would be vise to help new players in progression
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Tunguska could handily move up to 11.3. It’s honestly just straight up better than the Tor SAM
That’s true but it by no means is underperforming at that BR.
Tor isn’t that good so I have no clue why they decided to revert its BR back to 11.3.
It should really be 11.0 again…
Never said it should move down.
Because it is the best performing SPAA in the game 😅
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Its placement kinda made sense back when it got heavily nerfed in the same patch the Pantsir was added. Since then it received plenty of buffs almost bringing it back to its old self. No reason why its lower than the Otomatic anymore.
Wich one ? The nerfed Jagdtiger or the crap Ferdinand ?
Both of which perform better than SU-122-54.
That’s fair, though I remember some people equating it to the OSA or even calling it better.
Vehicle: Tempest Mk. V (Germany-Premium)
Gamemode: Air Sim
BR Change: 6.3 ----> 6.0
Reason: The premium Tempest Mk V in the German tech tree is effectively a counterpart of the British Tempest Mk V, yet it has a higher Battle Rating despite having fewer combat capabilities.
The main differences between the two aircraft are limited to slightly lower maximum speed at higher altitude and a shorter takeoff run for the German version. However, the British Tempest Mk V has significantly more ground-attack capability, as it can carry:
- 250 lb bombs
- 500 lb bombs
- 1000 lb bombs
- Unguided rockets
These payload options provide the British version with much greater versatility and combat effectiveness in mixed battles.
Currently, the British Tempest Mk V is rated at BR 6.0, while the German premium Tempest Mk V is rated at BR 6.3.
There is no clear gameplay or performance justification for the German variant to have a higher BR than the British version, especially considering its reduced payload options and nearly identical flight performance.
Those buffs still can’t make it effective against close-range aircraft due to its minimum range.
No guns either to protect itself.
It’s good against high-altitude targets but that’s pretty much it.
I was referring to the 2S6. Sry for the confusion
Ah ok.
I think the Otomatic may be slightly overtiered more than the 2S6 being undertiered.
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For longer ranges OSA might very well be better.
For shorter ranges Strela definitely has better missiles.
2S6 can sort of do both, but worse so it’s in a pretty weird spot.
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Ngl I kinda enjoy bringing the Otomatic into top tier. Really good at taking down all those FNF missiles. But yeah its BR is too high
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2S6 is the best all-rounder.
Strela and OSA are niche but Strela’s missiles can ignore flares, can shoot multiple of them at once (because they’re not SACLOS), and have 6km range, which is enough in most cases anyways, especially at 10.3.
Strela should honestly be 10.7.