Its placement kinda made sense back when it got heavily nerfed in the same patch the Pantsir was added. Since then it received plenty of buffs almost bringing it back to its old self. No reason why its lower than the Otomatic anymore.
Wich one ? The nerfed Jagdtiger or the crap Ferdinand ?
Both of which perform better than SU-122-54.
That’s fair, though I remember some people equating it to the OSA or even calling it better.
Vehicle: Tempest Mk. V (Germany-Premium)
Gamemode: Air Sim
BR Change: 6.3 ----> 6.0
Reason: The premium Tempest Mk V in the German tech tree is effectively a counterpart of the British Tempest Mk V, yet it has a higher Battle Rating despite having fewer combat capabilities.
The main differences between the two aircraft are limited to slightly lower maximum speed at higher altitude and a shorter takeoff run for the German version. However, the British Tempest Mk V has significantly more ground-attack capability, as it can carry:
- 250 lb bombs
- 500 lb bombs
- 1000 lb bombs
- Unguided rockets
These payload options provide the British version with much greater versatility and combat effectiveness in mixed battles.
Currently, the British Tempest Mk V is rated at BR 6.0, while the German premium Tempest Mk V is rated at BR 6.3.
There is no clear gameplay or performance justification for the German variant to have a higher BR than the British version, especially considering its reduced payload options and nearly identical flight performance.
Those buffs still can’t make it effective against close-range aircraft due to its minimum range.
No guns either to protect itself.
It’s good against high-altitude targets but that’s pretty much it.
I was referring to the 2S6. Sry for the confusion
Ah ok.
I think the Otomatic may be slightly overtiered more than the 2S6 being undertiered.
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For longer ranges OSA might very well be better.
For shorter ranges Strela definitely has better missiles.
2S6 can sort of do both, but worse so it’s in a pretty weird spot.
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Ngl I kinda enjoy bringing the Otomatic into top tier. Really good at taking down all those FNF missiles. But yeah its BR is too high
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2S6 is the best all-rounder.
Strela and OSA are niche but Strela’s missiles can ignore flares, can shoot multiple of them at once (because they’re not SACLOS), and have 6km range, which is enough in most cases anyways, especially at 10.3.
Strela should honestly be 10.7.
both amx and chaffee should go to 4.0. The EBR is fine it’s a lot more mobile and quite abit more stable than the amx
OTOMAGIC is a long forgotten vehicle that has been extremely powercrept.
Sad to see it at it’s current BR.
Jack of all trades, master of none.
Strela’s missiles are miles better than the platform itself, so that’s pretty much the reason it’s still at 10.3.
Yeah, though at least the ammo crates helped it a bit.
Probably the best kind of SPAA.
I mean, the platform itself isn’t great but it’s enough to dish out the Strelas.
I think it’s more potent than the OSA overall, especially considering the OSA’s platform is pretty bad – only ~24 degrees per second of turret rotation speed on an SPAA isn’t great.
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The gun system would have kept some relevancy if Gaijin would add the Oto Draco with the guided HEVT shell (DART)
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The Puma def has mobility but the depression is offset by how tall it is;
Neither has good armor, the puma get luckier thanks to the engine sometimes eating spall but thats a skill issue;
As for the spikes, 1 smoke counters a spike, if you have 3 or more youre good, if youre needing more than 3 chances thats, again, a skill issue;
More reasons for the 2s38 being 11.0:
A single 40mm shot is enough for a disable on most light vehicles
Perfect tracking with VT fuze + great HE
Good thermals/optics
BI
ARB
6.7 → 7.0
How is this still 6.7?
It has an incredibly high skill floor but also an incredibly high skill ceiling.
It can wipe anything at its BR so long as they play it right.
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Honestly the french super sabre is alright a 9.3, you can use rockets as flares and it is has good combat capabilities, i had a lot of really good games in it
Nothing helps like a good old BR decrease.
Depends on who you ask honestly.
Platform is, I’d say, as barebones as it could get.
No autocannon, no radar, no thermals.
Would be nice but don’t expect unique things to be added to exclusively vehicles of minor nations.
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