Ferdinand is slower, better armored, armed, and reloads quickly, while being able to take a hit.
L argument on your part.
Su-122-54 has decent mobility. It’s heat and apds do little damage, and the reload is really long
(GRB) AH-64DJP 11.7 > 11.3 — Compared to other helicopters 11.7 (AH-64A, AH-64D [Netherlands], AHS, Mi-35P, Ka-50[11.3]) it is inferior in almost all means of warnings and countermeasures. The 64DJP does not have LWS, IRCM and MAWs (AH-64D [Netherlands], Ka-50 and Mi-35P). I believe that the lack of important warning stations and countermeasures makes it the worst helicopter among those that I cited as an example and should go to 11.3.
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Well, that’s the developers’ fault for giving different bullets terrible penetration modifiers. The 100mm 3BM25 should have the same 60° penetration modifier as the 125mm 3BM22, meaning this 100mm bullet would have a 60° penetration similar to the APDS M728 or even better. In fact, the 115mm 3BM21 has the same problem at 60°.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Warthunder/comments/1764vrf/incorrect_performance_of_3bm21_and_3bm25/
Mode: GRB
Vehicle: Panther F
BR Change: 6.0 to 5.7
Reasons: Worst and weaker turret with slow rotation aswell, There is no reason put the 3 Panther is the same BR when the are not perfroming with equal result and with this Germany finally obtain some movility and variation in 5.7 a BR entire composed by heavies and TD.
My brain is checking out. Insomnia is gone, narcolepsy is coming in.
Also, they group Kurnass 2000 with Baz instead of Baz and Baz 13.7 lol
And strange they group F-5TH and F-16A OCU instead of leave it there as it is and make the RTAF F-16A ADF group with F-16A OCU then rework the OCU to be the same as Netz then add F-16AM eMLU wtf.
Russian bias is over?
Me with my 10.7 su25bm lineup:
No buddy we are just getting started
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Rangefinder and 6.7s reload as opposed to the standard 7.4s reload.
It’s better for long-range maps than the other Panther Variants.
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I’ve had one survive one of the guided missles from the Orion drone… american bias
(RB) XM800T 8.7 > 9.0 — vehicle surpasses the Type 87 RCV in all performance characteristics (which is 9.0), namely, the XM800T has: Stabilizer, better horsepowers per tonn(29.3 hp/t versus 18 hp/t for Type 87 RCV), maneuverability (can turn around on the spot), turret rotation (76.5 degrees/sec versus 51 degrees/sec for RCV). I hope this is enough to increase the br of the XM800T or lower the br of the Type 87 RCV.
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German 6.7 TDs would have a word with you.
Not even global stats agree with you.
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In Ground Arcade Battles, from BR 10.0 to 12.7, aircraft line up is the same. Simply moving the Strela to a higher battle rating doesn’t fix its overperformance—it stoped working after 10.0 anyway.
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It’s not a totally underperforming IS2 so it must go to 12.7
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@OrsonES How many bought rank VIII planes will be required to start rank IX research? I am absolutely not a fan of this if I am then forced to grind out attacker and bomber trees I will never use…
Reducing the BR of the best performing 6.0 Panther.
How smart is that ?
I think that chieftains moving up is not that big of a deal for the vehicle. Idk about 900 but the chieftain mk.10 is super awesome and I love every single game in it.
Id like to address the elefant in the room…T72B3 11.3 and arena at 11.0…this are super strong and heavily armoured tanks and the difference between them is basically - B3 has slightly better engine, Arena has APS. There is no reason for both of thsm to be 11.3, both should be 11.7 to make the lineup better, you have 3 T80s there and the vehicles are much more capable than 11.3.
Super sabre France
Another obvious thing id like to point out is Super saber for France at 9.3 - taiwanese supersaber is the same BR, has flares, AIM9Es and is slightly slower. French one has no flares, AIM9bs, essentially same speed. There is no reason for French one to be at 9.3
AGS 12.0 USA
Ags is bad light at 12.0 and the main reason for it is that it has 9.0 round M833 fighting T90Ms. It went up in BR in last changes by 0.7 and still no M900. Just give it the M900 alredy and see how it performs. You cant even pen the breage of T80U currently and driver port is 50/50 chance to pen. Not mentioning the possibility of nonpening T80s LFP on 500M
Vautor class 9.0 France
Vautor class of aircrafts is something gaijin hates in the game since they were used to grind events fast. Gaijin made the vehicle usless few updates back and basically wasted 60% for anyone owning it. You have a big, super slow aircraft that turns like god damn locomotive, no flares, no AAM (the jewish one has 4 that are worse AIM-9Bs which you cant use cos you cant turn and you are slow), no balistic computer, relatively awarage bomb load (1.5 Bases) and for your offensive capability you have 30mms (actually good, but everyone has 30mms and A model doest even have guns at all) and the worst part is it has ground spawn. You have absolutly 0 chance to bomb a base in a match. Cant fly high cos migs will eat you, cant fly low cos everything else will eat you…just usless vehicles. So pelase give it airspawn back
T58 8.3 USA
This thing is absolutly dominating every 8.3 to 9.3 match it joins. It shold definitly go up bu 0.3 or even 0.7 and would be completly fine
T80UD 10.3 USSR
Ok another straight up OP vehicle we are refusing to nerf because its premium and generates a looot of money. That thing is a 10.7 easily 11.0 vehicle, T80U its essentially stock T80U in performance
Chi-Nu II 4.3 Japan
This thing is essentially panzer 4 H with much worse armour and is 0.6 BRs higher. There is not reason for it to be this high, also it has no decent line up cos if you uptoer your other stuff it wont be competetivly useful. Chi Nu I (3.7) has 103mm of pen and exposed breache cos its a field canon…Na to (3.3) milk box… just put jt at 4.0 or 3.7 to make it usefull for once
Freccia OWS 30 10.7 Italy
This thing is straight up upgrade in every way to normal frecia and both sit at same BR. There is no reason for that. Put the squadron one at 11.0 you will still run the same line up but balancewise it would make more sense
Somua SM 7.7 France
Yeah OP 8.0 vehicle thats under BRd because of premium status, nothing to say here.
E.B.R1953 (5.3) and AMX-13 FL11 (4.3)
Both are up BRd lights that are essentially bad chaffe at much higher BR. Just put them both 0.6 BR down, no reason why AMX shoul be higher than chaffe and ok EBR is fast so 1.0 difference…not really justified by me but sure
M1 Abrams IP 11.3 USA
And last thing, IP abrams, this thing is fightimg BMPts with 105mm gun and 10.7 armour, i dont see a reason for it to not go 11.0 even 10.7 if T72B3 should go to 11.0
From reaserch perspective I dont really see a reason for Taiwanese M60s to be separated in TT. Make them folder since they are just a modification.
Also the trees are geting messy again and i think further foldering would be vise to help new players in progression
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I’d say the Spyder AIO can go down to 12.3.
The Claws sits at 12.3, which with both launchers deployed gets 2 more launches of ARH missiles. With Ammo boxes, it also gets more missiles overall.
I’d argue that the system is not on par with the likes of IRIS-T, Nasams, or any other 12.7 SAM system currently in game.
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Skill issue
Moving up latter by a higher increment than the former is peak WT forum.
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ngl Spyder is soo ass it could even sit at the same BR as the swedish IRIST SLS
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