HELL NO.
It has APHE and is vastly better than the ZSUs or sidams!
Vehicle: HMS Invincible
Gamemode: Naval AB/RB
BR Change: 5.7 —> 6.0
Reason: This battlecruiser with 8 305mm cannons shouldnt be at 5.7 BR with other cruisers. She can be hardly pen and extremely hard to be blown up. Even at 6.0 BR ,those cruisers like USS Fargo, 68bis,IJN Suzuya can’t beat her
stupid rule that makes this thread even more clogged up tbh.
Problem is that it’s not clear which vehicle suggestions that users are agreeing with when they “like” a post that contains multiple vehicle suggestions, so it actually makes sense from that perspective.
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It is literally a regular M1 Abrams with a 120mm. It is a glass cannon especially at it’s BR where they just lol pen you.
Vehicle: Koln F220
Gamemode: Naval AB/RB
BR Change: 4.7 —> 4.3
Reason: This Frigate which can only spawn at destroyer point ,and only have two 100mm cannon without semi-AP shell , should be at the same BR with SKR1/7 literaly.
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My god, we agree on something
fair.
however at the same time groups of friends can just bump each others comments and overrepresent support. Im saying that because my comments and my friends that are also forum frequenters naturally do this to each others messages.
I know my main message on this thread is a prime example of that as well as getting more views from being the very first comment on such a high traffic thread
It may be better to look at what vehicles appear more in messages from people instead of a post popularity contest.
You and your friends have limited likes a day, so if you’re forced to spread out your likes over many posts you have to be selective versus liking your friends’ multi-vehicle suggestion posts and leaving it at that.
They do look at how many singular messages a vehicle gets. In fact, I calculated in the past how developers gave more feedback towards vehicles with more singular posts than vehicles with more upvotes total, so there’s priority towards singular messages per vehicle than popularity contests while multi-vehicle suggestion posts are completely disregarded.
I calculated this with a previous planned br thread where Harrier GR1 had received more messages but less total upvotes, and got a developer’s response due to “massive feedback” while Mirage F1 had received less messages but more total upvotes and was completely ignored.
Vehicle: Paris/Courbet
Gamemode: Naval AB/RB
BR Change: 6.0 —> 6.3
Reason: This Battleships is much too op at 6.0BR obviously. When carrying less shell storage, even higher class BBs can only do a little damage to her, not to mention cruisers at the same BR with her
I don’t understand the meaning of the 18E moving to 14.7 while the Su-30SM and 15CGE are left at 14.3.
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Hawk 209:
Air RB:
10.3 → 10.7 (Add 2 extra Sidewinders)
Ground RB:
10.3 → 11.0 (Add 2 extra ATGMs)
As it stands it is inferior to the British Hawks, however by making historical changes (Extra ATGMs & Extra AAMs) we can bring it to equivalency.
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Turan III is fine at 4.0, and even if they would bring it down, I still would use it alongside the Stug 3, even though it’s not the correct modell.
lmao. Removing APDS from Falcon? rightio. Glad I moved onto the superior Flakpanzer.
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the limit is too high for that to be a concern when we talk primarily off the forum.
us brit mains are extremely overrepresented on the forum. Morvran_ alone makes up more forum activity than all other languages (other than Russian) combined by more than double. and the GR1 is a much more hot topic vehicle than a run of the mill mirage fighter. more notable planes in the pop culture get more seeing to
This may just be because im part of this group but britain seems to have a much more dedicated and effective group for finding information and have found more connections to get stuff done to vehicles on and off the forum, even in mass meeting grounds like snailmine the british are all over it.
Jesus. Do you really need to cripple it that much? I has no radar, no target lock, its APHE belt has only 50 mm of pen at 100 meters against flat surface. Beside being kinda slow and having no armour. Now as it will no longer be able to fight tanks, as in strictly AA role, it has to face jet planes flying way too high and helicopters firing ATGMs from kilometres away. Again, with no radar or targeting system.
If you absolutely need to nerf it, at least put it in a proper BR then. It’ll be as good as Shilka without APDS, so put it in 7.3. Or 7.7 along with ZSU-37-2. Though it does have a radar. And a better belt, with almost twice as much pen and a larger calibre.
Althout I would rather prefer if you left Falcon and AMX-30 DCA where they are now.
Interestingly, when it comes to planned battle-rating threads, the Italians are the most over-represented, they usually show out in force when their vehicles get mentioned in the planned changes. I believe out of all tech tree discord servers, the biggest ones are the Italians.
Hawk 200 RDA:
Ground RB:
11.0 → 11.0 (Add AGM-65G)
Currently the RDA struggles in GRB due to a lack of Targeting Pod, this could be mitigated by adding IR AGM-65Gs, which also has the bonus of extending the possible engagement range when trying to counter more modern SAMs
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Wouldnt be too bad if they got their historical AP instead but eh, knowing gaijin it’ll be left to rot