Vehicle: Paris/Courbet
Gamemode: Naval AB/RB
BR Change: 6.0 —> 6.3
Reason: This Battleships is much too op at 6.0BR obviously. When carrying less shell storage, even higher class BBs can only do a little damage to her, not to mention cruisers at the same BR with her
I don’t understand the meaning of the 18E moving to 14.7 while the Su-30SM and 15CGE are left at 14.3.
Hawk 209:
Air RB:
10.3 → 10.7 (Add 2 extra Sidewinders)
Ground RB:
10.3 → 11.0 (Add 2 extra ATGMs)
As it stands it is inferior to the British Hawks, however by making historical changes (Extra ATGMs & Extra AAMs) we can bring it to equivalency.
Turan III is fine at 4.0, and even if they would bring it down, I still would use it alongside the Stug 3, even though it’s not the correct modell.
lmao. Removing APDS from Falcon? rightio. Glad I moved onto the superior Flakpanzer.
the limit is too high for that to be a concern when we talk primarily off the forum.
us brit mains are extremely overrepresented on the forum. Morvran_ alone makes up more forum activity than all other languages (other than Russian) combined by more than double. and the GR1 is a much more hot topic vehicle than a run of the mill mirage fighter. more notable planes in the pop culture get more seeing to
This may just be because im part of this group but britain seems to have a much more dedicated and effective group for finding information and have found more connections to get stuff done to vehicles on and off the forum, even in mass meeting grounds like snailmine the british are all over it.
Jesus. Do you really need to cripple it that much? I has no radar, no target lock, its APHE belt has only 50 mm of pen at 100 meters against flat surface. Beside being kinda slow and having no armour. Now as it will no longer be able to fight tanks, as in strictly AA role, it has to face jet planes flying way too high and helicopters firing ATGMs from kilometres away. Again, with no radar or targeting system.
If you absolutely need to nerf it, at least put it in a proper BR then. It’ll be as good as Shilka without APDS, so put it in 7.3. Or 7.7 along with ZSU-37-2. Though it does have a radar. And a better belt, with almost twice as much pen and a larger calibre.
Althout I would rather prefer if you left Falcon and AMX-30 DCA where they are now.
Interestingly, when it comes to planned battle-rating threads, the Italians are the most over-represented, they usually show out in force when their vehicles get mentioned in the planned changes. I believe out of all tech tree discord servers, the biggest ones are the Italians.
Hawk 200 RDA:
Ground RB:
11.0 → 11.0 (Add AGM-65G)
Currently the RDA struggles in GRB due to a lack of Targeting Pod, this could be mitigated by adding IR AGM-65Gs, which also has the bonus of extending the possible engagement range when trying to counter more modern SAMs
Wouldnt be too bad if they got their historical AP instead but eh, knowing gaijin it’ll be left to rot
the italian research discord is one of the best ones. i only lurk there as im not really intrested in italian stuff but they are just as passionate and bloody brilliant at what they do.
the WT-ITA server is massive its very impressive, they got the MB-339K into the game themselves. truly brilliant stuff.
their overrepresentation is very much deserved with the passion and collective effort.
Yeah, it’s such a random change. I assume it won’t make it to the final changes. Also, it’s typical of Gaijin to do this to minor nations like Britain and France, while they’ve added vehicles such as the XM246. But no, Falcon with a weak little engine and crammed crew department, that can’t take a hit, is the problem, lol.
the TV seeker on the 65B is nowhere close to good enough above 10.3 on a light fighter.
the 65D or G (any IR seeking maverick) should be standard on the BAE hawks. the 209 is allowed them so why not the 200 when its 99% the exact same plane
Then why not move the T-80UK and T-80U at 11.3 too?
Air Realistic:
Mirage 2000D-R1:
12.3 → 12.0
It has only 2 missiles, requires an external gunpod for gun that sacrifices some flight performance and does not have a fighter radar to appropriately detect targets, should not be 12.3 while F-15As are moved down to 12.7
Foldering the US Hornets before the Tomcats and the AUS Hornets before the Sea Harrier is absolutely braindead
whats even funnier is that the 14.0 AUS hornet has the potential to get ASRAAM missiles in the future, which would puch it even higher in BR than the FA2
And when they add the AUS Super Hornet… the efficient research will be with the FA2???
