Yeah… We are actually going to end up with F18s at 12.0 before long
Vehicle: T-80UD
Gamemode: Ground realistic
BR Change: 10.3 —> 10.7
Reason: T-80UD has been very powerful since it was added. A much stronger version of any of the T-72Bs at the same BR. Has access to the same powerful rounds, but with the armour of the much high BR T-80U series of tanks. This makes it much more survivable than the 72Bs and 64B (which you want to move up as well). Putting it at 10.7 won’t do it any harm, it would actually be paired very nicely with the T-80B, 2S6, 2S38 etc.
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So early F-15’s goes to 12.7 in Sim, but Su-27/J-11 remains at 13.3? And Su-30MK2/MKK still not at 13.7?
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honestly wouldnt raise it until they raise the other 5.0s cause it has similiar armor to t1e1 90 and the M4A1 76 which are very good at there br
The T-64B sharing the same BR as the T-80UD is insane, also the 2S38 getting moved up to 10.7 despite the lackluster statistics? Since when do you not care about stats when it comes to balancing vechicles?
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SB: F-15A, F-15J, Baz
From 13.0 to 12.7
Excuse me, but WHAT???
WHY?
How can you downtier the F-15 and NOT the Su-27/Su-33/J-11 which are arguably the equivalent aircraft!!! Leaving them at 13.3 WHAT???
Redfor will be flying MiG-29A 9-13 with 2xER and 2xR-60 and inferior avionics vs 4xAIM-7M + 2xAIM-9M with a MUCH better radar and RWR and countermeasure count???
It’s already bad enough that the F-18s are undertiered at that bracket in SB, now THIS?!?!?!
HOW IS THIS EQUAL/BALANCED?
HELLO? GAIJIN? HELLO?
EDIT: Just to make it clear, I HEAVILY SUGGEST that the Su-27/Su-33/J-11 match the BR of the F-15A/F-15J/Baz, whatever it may be.
It was already bad that the Flankers were overtiered at 13.3 while the F-15s sat at 13.0, but undertiering the F-15s AGAIN… this is ABSURD.
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It won’t even be able to pen a Tiger 2H at anything that isn’t extremely close range
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AMX 30 S DCA , put two versions in the tree, one with APDS and the other without
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really whats this huge difference then ?
Simply not good enough with 15s aced reload.
Others would have similar shells and reload twice as fast.
M109A1/Rochev
6.3 → 6.0
They have nothing over the 6.0 M109s (even worse due to no smoke from the G, and easier to shoot barrel)
They should be moved to parity
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Now we only need m2k to 12.3
Check the side armor that goes around to the front
Vehicle: F-2A ATDW
Gamemode: Air Realistic
BR Change: 13.0->12.7
The F-2A ADTW, while good lacks sufficient armament to compete with the other 13.0s such as Su-27s, the AAM-3 is good but the AIM-7M is terrible at 13.0 either give it a 7P/MH or move it down just like the F-15A etc
Vehicle: MiG-29G
Gamemode: Air Realistic
BR Change: 13.0->12.7
Literally what do I need to say about this plane, its equivalents are the Su-27S and Su-33
Both of those vehicles are vastly better in flight performance, avionics and have more of the same missiles
There is absolutely no reason for the MiG-29 to be at the exact same battle rating.
It is one of if not the worst 4th gen fighters for dogfighting, has SPO-15 with low countermeasure count and just two long-range (although good) Fox-1s with R-73s letting it carry 6 missiles max (2x Fox-1, 4x Fox-2 or 6x Fox-2)
Compared to Su-27S which has up to 6 of the same Fox-1s allowing for 4 R-73s on a vastly better airframe with 98x large caliber countermeasures
Then with the Su-33 there are up 8 of the same Fox-1 with 4 R-73 and while it has just 48x Large caliber countermeasures, it has a digital RWR which lets you reliably identify enemies and notch fox-1s or fox-3s.
Not to mention both flankers having significantly better fuel amounts compared to the MiG-29, able to carry more fuel than the fulcrum (including the fulcrum’s fuel tank) easily, letting them fly around longer in a match
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AIR REALISTIC
F4U-4B 5.7 → 6.3
Comparable in every way to J6K1 (6.7), and despite having two less guns it has higher total RPM on its 20mm cannons.
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Za-35
Ground Realistic
8.7 → 9.0
Za-35 is pretty much equal to the Gepardy vehicles, but with better mobility. It’s been far to powerful for far too long.
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Lorraine 40t 7.7 → 12.7
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soon fr fr
Who has 122mm overpressure APHE?
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you do realize its fighting the exact same stuff right? even at 12.3 like the only things it wouldn’t fight right now is like 2a7s which aren’t that much harder to kill than the 2a5s which it can already fight. it doesn’t need a dart at all