Planned Battle Rating Changes (January 2026)

Vehicle: Buccaneer S.2
Gamemode: All
Change: Add 100 Gal. No.1 Mk.1 Fire Bombs (Napalm)
Reason: The Buccaneer S.2 is a 9.3 subsonic ground attacker with extremely limited (practically none) A2A performance, but has a moderately strong defensive suite that dictates the 9.3 battle rating. My proposal rather than any form of BR Change is to add the currently missing Napalm to the Buc S.2. This change would help minimise the necessary weight the Buc needs to carry and thus increase its ability to defend against incoming threats. These were reported more than 3 years ago and are directly referenced within the pilots manual.

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punishment for good players.

aparrently a chieftain mk5 with structural steel is worthy of seeing a TURMS T

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Vehicle: BMP-3

Gamemode: Ground Realistic

BR Change: 9.3 —> 9.7

Reason: The BMP-3 outperforms most similar vehicles at this BR considerably and belongs alongside IFVs such as the Bradley or Warrior now located at 9.7.

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Vehicle: BMD-4
Gamemode: Ground Realistic
BR Change: 9.7 —> 10.0
Reason: This is a highly capable IFV with both a capable 30mm autocanon and a 100mm cannon capable of firing Tandem charge ATGMs. This IFV is easily on-par with most if not all 10.0 or 10.3 IFVs of a similar type.

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Vehicle: BMD-4M
Gamemode: Ground Realistic
BR Change: 9.7 —> 10.0
Reason: This is a highly capable IFV with both a capable 30mm autocanon and a 100mm cannon capable of firing Tandem charge ATGMs. This IFV is easily on-par with most if not all 10.0 or 10.3 IFVs of a similar type.

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Aircraft F-14B
To BR 12.3
In game mode air RB
If F-15A is moving to 12.7.
There’s no reason for the F-14B to be the same BR or higher than the superior F-15A.

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Why is there no decompression for coastal vessels, not even a change for one of the specific coastal vessels?

Super disappointed. Will post my feedback in the meantime.

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Vehicle: T-62

Grb

Br: 8.7-> 8.3

The T-62 has a similar performance as the T-55, armor is pretty much the same thickness wise, apfsds has similar performance as well. Only difference is the reload speed, which is about a second slower.

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Vehicle: BMD-4M2
Gamemode: Ground Realistic
BR Change: 9.7 —> 10.0
Reason: This is a highly capable IFV with both a capable 30mm autocanon and a 100mm cannon capable of firing Tandem charge ATGMs. This IFV is easily on-par with most if not all 10.0 or 10.3 IFVs of a similar type.

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Vehicle: Tornado Gr1 (Britain)

Gamemode: Air Realistic and Air Sim

BR Change: 11.7 ----> 11.3

Reason: It is the weakest of all 7 Tornado IDS aircraft at that BR range with the much weaker MK101 engine, this severely impact the Tornado Gr1’s overall performance. This is partially mitigated by the fact it can carry Mk13 bombs instead of Mk83s, which do allow for slightly more damage per bomb run, but this is a minimal increase in output and only partially mitigates the weaker engines. Additional differences such as PGMs have no impact on performance within Air gamemodes and are rarely, if ever, used.

Compared to the 3x Tornado IDS already at 11.3 (Tornado A200, Tornado MFG and Tornado WTD61) there is no justification at all for this Tornado IDS to be at any higher of a BR and should be lowered to match their rating. Additionally, the Tornado IDS MLU (RET.8) is also at 11.7 with a far larger flare count and all-aspect MAWS which gives it a notable defensive edge

Mk101 engines are ahistorical and should be replaced with the Mk103 engines that all other Tornado IDS have. There is no justification for this nerf. Only area where this change could affect balance is in ground modes with the Tornado Gr1 have a notable advantage over its contemporaries (Tornado A200A and Tornado ASSTA1) then increase its Ground Realistic Battle Rating to 11.7. In no other aircraft is “balanced” achieved through engine nerfs

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F-15J going to 12.7 is funny tbh

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Vehicle: Tornado IDS (1995) (Italy)

Gamemode: Air Realistic and Air Sim

BR Change: 11.7 ----> 11.3

Reason: It has identical performance to the earlier Tornado IDS aircraft (Tornado A200, Tornado MFG and Tornado WTD61) in every single respect and therefore has no justification for being a higher BR within air gamemodes. Additionally, the Tornado IDS MLU (RET.8) is also at 11.7 with a far larger flare count and all-aspect MAWS which gives it a notable defensive edge

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Vehicle: Tornado ASSTA1 (Germany)

Gamemode: Air Realistic and Air Sim

BR Change: 11.7 ----> 11.3

Reason: It has identical performance to the earlier Tornado IDS aircraft (Tornado A200, Tornado MFG and Tornado WTD61) in every single respect and therefore has no justification for being a higher BR within air gamemodes. Additionally, the Tornado IDS MLU (RET.8) is also at 11.7 with a far larger flare count and all-aspect MAWS which gives it a notable defensive edge

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Very good! Love the new Sim EC brackets! = )

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Why are the Early F15s moving down

Like they are better then the F/A-18C late and F-14A at the same BR

Why is the F-14A still got AIM-9Hs at that Br in comparison and the F-14B still only have AIM-9Ls at a higher Br with worse FM and radar

This is crazy

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Vehicle: Tornado GR4
Gamemode: Ground Realistic
BR Change: 12.3 —> 11.7/12.0
Mitigation: Increase the SP cost of Brimstones notably on the Tornado GR4
Reason: The Tornado GR4 doesn’t currently present a massive upgrade over other Tornado IDS at it 11.3 and its hard to justify it being 12.3. Lets break it down.

It has the identical flight performance to the other 6x Mk103 Tornado IDS, 3 of which are actually 10.0 in GRB and the other 3 are considered fairly weak 11.3s. It does have superior A2A performance with Aim-9M but this would fine at 11.7 given the performance of CAP at 11.7 such as the Mig-29 and is still far weaker than aircraft like the F4F ICE or Su-27/Su-33 at 12.0. It also has more CMs, but those are rarely a deciding factor and shouldn’t have a radical impact on BR placement. it does also gain MAWS but so do many other aircraft such as the A-10C and the A200C is also due to recieve MAWS and Im not expecting MAWS alone to move it from 11.3 to 12.3.

This leaves A2G performance, the GR4 has the same Targeting pod and if anything weaker GBU options to that found on the A200C (MLU) Tornado currently at 11.3, so those shouldn’t have an impact. The PGM-500/2000s whilst being the IR version and so an upgrade over the TV version found on the GR1 aren’t radically better either and at most justify a 0.3 BR increase, so in this case, to 11.7.

That leaves the Brimstones, which are in a massively nerfed state currently with no fire-and-forget capabilities. They also have extremely limited range when used on the Tornado, and so you are often within range of even the weakest SPAA when using them and they require you to remain well within range of those SPAA for them to be used. Their greatest usage on the GR4 is to simply decoy the Pantsir whilst your PGM-2000s do the actual killing. Much like GBU-39s do on other aircraft. But they have a potential to provide sustained CAS, but so does the Su-39 with 16x Vikhrs vs the A-10C with 6x AGM-65Ds and the Su-39 is actually at the lower BR. So this shouldn’t be much of an issue either.

But that having been said, its the only reason I can think for the GR4 to be anything other than 11.7 in GRB. So if they are such an issue, increase their SP cost by a notable amount. This totally eliminates them being a major issue and balances them well.

When the GR4 is also directly compared to aircraft such as the F-111F with 6x AGM-65Ds at 11.7, it is hard to justify any reason for the Tornado GR4 to be at 12.3. I’d consider these aircraft virtually identical in terms of A2G in GRB

As a final point of note. Lowering the GR4 to 11.7 allows it to be used in an 11.7 line-up. In its current 12.3 placement, it will be directly competing against the 13.0 multi-roles 99% of the time and as a result, has little to no value over other more capable aircraft such as the Harrier Gr7 and Typhoon FGR4.

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Vehicle: F-4F KWS LV
Gamemode: Air Sim
Change: 13.0 —> 13.3
Reason: The F-4F KWS LV should match the battle rating of its direct equivalent the Tornado F3 late and Mig-29SMT both of which are currently 13.3. With the introduction of a 13.3 bracket. It is time for 13.0 to begin a process of decompression and the F-4F KWS LV belongs at 13.3 and not alongside the 13.0 Fox-3 aircraft such as the Viggen DI and Sea Harrier FA2.

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Vehicle: Leopard 2A4
Gamemode: Ground Realistic
BR Change: 10.7 —> 11.0 (Maybe)
Ammo Change: Add DM33 or maybe even DM43 and make it 11.0 with DM43
Reason: while it is still a solid tank, over time and due to BR compression we have Tanks at 11.0 which have K5, APS and 3BM60(580mm pen) while Leopard 2A4 is still stuck with 408mm pen

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In response to my own suggestion, an alternative suggestion:
F-15A & related variants.
BR change to 13.3
Game mode air RB.
Reason: F-14B, Sea Harrier, etc are 13.0 while being inferior.

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Shenyang F-5: 9.3 > 9.0 In ARB

Reason for wanting this change:

The Shenyang f-5 is functionally identical to the Lim-5P flight performance wise with the only differences being that it swaps one of the 23mm’s for a 37 and has the addition of 2x Aim-9B equivalents.
There is no reason for this plane to sit at 9.3 being the same br as Mig-19’s, F-104’s, F-100’s, and Mig-21’s when the Lim-5 and Mig17PF are at 8.7.

The Shenyang has the exact same flight performance as the lim 5 and the 17PF but sits 2 full br’s higher for no reason.

The Cl13B Mk6 which is simply a superior plane to the shenyang in basically every metric is still a BR lower, so it makes no sense why this plane is still 9.3.

Facing 10.3 planes and all aspect missiles is extremely unfun and not enjoyable at all.

Hence my suggestion and asking to move it back down to 9.0 at minimum, since its performance is identical to the Lim5p and the 17PF. Please show this plane some love and move it back to a BR where it can be relevant and fun again.

Edit* I see its going to 9.0 specifically in Sim battles, please make the same br change apply to ARB as well this plane really is not up to par or competitive at 9.3.

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