Planned Battle Rating changes for the month of October

The LeClerc autoloader is set to normal battle conditions loading faster than it does now is not justified unless a mechanic is added to allow faster reloading for auto loaders with a chance to misfire

The LeClerc needs its armor reworked and its historical round OFL 120 F2

It’s amazing how Gaijin removes shrapnel shells for being mediocre but forces every US tank to grind intentionally nerfed solid AP.

Fix this shit. It’s getting old.

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Why is the (76) Jumbo at 6.3? I don’t really understand it, I know it’s not in any change or anything but it keeps getting killed (or I keep killing it in my USSR lineup which has also been ruined a little but with 1944 going up :( .

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Why is the 2S38 still allowd to be 10.0 when it’s objectively better than pretty much all the CV9040s, either the 9040s should get their historical target tracking or the 2S38 should go up.

Also the OBJ279 at 8.7 is a menace and needs to be moved up.

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It was not too good.

It had firepower on par with 4.3 vehicles and armor on par with 3.3 vehicles and mobility on par with 3.0 vehicles

The only thing going for it was 4.3 firepower w/ a vertical stabilizer which is why its placement at 4.7 was justified

Moving it to 5.0 is insane

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Bc they’re very similarly capable. The somewhat worse turret armor of the (P) doesn’t really warrant an entire BR step in difference imo. People should stop thinking that slight differences should result in a completely different BR

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AH-64D getting moved up but not the Israeli Saraph?

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Just because in your imaginary 1 vs. 1 the Tiger II H beats the M26, doesn’t mean it will be less effective on the battlefield.
If a tank can penetrate the M26 front or turret, it can also penetrate a Tiger II Hs turret.
If you’re going to fight at close range, the Tiger II H offers practically no real advantage over the M26, except the more powerfull gun while being less mobile.

So the Tiger II (H) is only better for staying at range and sniping, like practically any German Rank III and IV medium, heavy or TD.

The game is not called M26 vs. Tiger II (H).
A Zero can never catch any plane at the same BR, but doesn’t mean its not capable of shooting them down.
The M26 doesn’t need to be able to pen the Tiger II (H) with it’s APHE because as a medium you will flank, brawl or ambush to shoot others in the side, of which 80% are not Tiger II (H)s.
Yet it also has the ability to take heavy vehicles like the Tiger II or Ferdindand.

You can’t rate a vehicle by it’s ability to fight one particular other vehicle, when there are countless of others to consider.

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add a german m41 without heat shell and apds at 5.0 (similar to the chinese one). Germany has a massive gap between the puma at 3.3 and m41 at now 6.7. It’s more than 3 full brs and is a massive disadvantage for Germany

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The ZTZ88s are very strong at their BR, they have better guns, better engines, LRF, and other advantages over other 8.7 tanks, even some 9.0 ones.

But yes, they should definitely decompress the 9.0-10.3 area by moving up 10.0-11.7 tanks and increase the max BR to 12.0. Fighting Leo2A4s, TURMS, ZTZ96As, T-80Bs, M1 Abrams and Challys in AMX-32s, Leopard1A5s and similar vehicles regularly because of the premium spam is truly terrible.

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These sort of bullet point arguments are horribly biased.

I can just as easily argue that M18 has the armament of a 3.3 (M10), the mobility of a 3.3 (Sd.Kfz.234), and the armor of a 1.0 (basically any reserve tank with armor that can be penetrated by a .50 cal).

If I pick the best and worst characteristics of a specific BR, then I can make any tank look like it doesn’t deserve a specific BR.

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Pretty weird tbh

I don’t understand why the vikers mk1 has to go up the truth, it’s agile and has a lot of penetration but it doesn’t do much damage and it’s not fast. It is also big.

I’m bored of them change tank BRs without thinking about Line up,just for greed.

Then the community tries to see how to prevent people from using only one tank! Well, logical.

If it was for balance they would play more Russian tanks.

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Nah they all belong at those BRs, KV1 ZIS5 especially

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[quote=“KillaKiwi, post:170, topic:33834, full:true”]
Just because in your imaginary 1 vs. 1 the Tiger II H beats the M26, doesn’t mean it will be less effective on the battlefield.
If a tank can penetrate the M26 front or turret, it can also penetrate a Tiger II Hs turret.
If you’re going to fight at close range, the Tiger II H offers practically no real advantage over the M26, except the more powerfull gun while being less mobile.

So the Tiger II (H) is only better for staying at range and sniping, like practically any German Rank III and IV medium, heavy or TD.

Why is that only an argument for German tanks? Why do American tanks have to be easily killed from the front by any vehicle they could potentially face but German tanks have to be flanked.

Oh, the T32 can’t be frontally penned by someone that brought their PzIV to 5.7, so it has to be 7.7.

Meanwhile, the Tiger II H is frontally immune to multiple guns, while having one of the best guns BR for BR in the game.

I want the 6.7 T29 back. I want the 7.0 T32E1 back. Just flank them.

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Don’t really think the change for the ZTZ59D1 is necessary in regards to the thermal sight. For two plane stabilizer I don’t really care but I think one of the core features it has over the other vehicles around it is its thermal optic.

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Yeah, the whole reason I like it is the TVD. It makes up for the otherwise mediocre or just straight up bad aspects of the tank. (The ERA is shockingly useless)

Looking at the changes, I’m not sure about the regular Pershings to 6.7. In their current state, these tanks should not go up. They lack penetration, on account of their shells not being corrected, and they do not have the armor to compete. Along with this, being placed at the same BR as the T26E1-1, T26E5, and M26E1 will completely negate any reason to use the M26 itself, as the rest are straight upgrades in something significant that the M26 itself lacks. I believe it should stay at 6.3, and it’s shells need to be corrected to have their historical performance.

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Gaijin: “Secret documents”

you’re arguing basically about the 279 not being 9.3. it can easily be 9.0 with your arguments.

Take the Leopard 1A1 at 9.0 for example. It has DM23, not DM33; no LRF, no thermals, no armour, the difference in mobility isn’t even that big. So compared to a Leopard 1A1, the Object 279 could be 9.0 (or the Leopard 8.7).

Thermals generally don’t start appearing on MBTs until 9.3, with the only exception I can think of being the unstabilized AMX-30s. Since the Object 279 plays similarly to an MBT, and has very similar mobility and firepower but much, much better armor (that can even withstand early darts outside of weakspots), it can easily go to 9.0 and fit right in. The much better thing to ask for would be moving 10.0-11.7 tanks up as decompression, so the tanks an Object 279 at 9.0 can face in a full uptier are less superior.

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