Planned Battle Rating changes for the month of October

SU-122-54 6.7 → 7.3/7.7
I have no idea why it’s still 6.7… It has great mobility and strong armor (T-54 (1951) 8.0 BR hull), powerful 122mm gun with 400mm penetration HEAT-FS rounds and 330mm penetration APDS rounds It can penetrate 7.7 Maus without any problem.
Comparing it to other 6.7-7.3 SPGs like Ferdinand, Jagdtiger, T-95, Tortoise, AMX-50 Foch etc. DOESN’T HAVE ANY SENSE, bc Su-122-54 is better than all of them i literally EVERY SINGLE CASE.

So then it should be moved to 7.3/7.7 BR, even there it would be VERY good SPG.

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Oi! That is MY Avatar!

(OK, now it is ours)

Fw 189 2.3 → 1.3/1.0
This aircraft has just 2x7,92mm with 1000 rounds at 2.3. That is crazy and it can only be explained by it being played only by at least experienced players. Its real performance is that of a 1.0 aircraft or even worse.

It is a recon plane. In War Thunder it’s designated as a bomber but it can only carry 4x50kg bombs.
You are forced to play this “bomber” as a fighter. So why don’t you just make it a fighter to remove the airspawn and put it at 1,0. This way it has at least a acceptable armament. While it is maneuverable for a twin engine, it paid the price for that by minimal armament and ammo. Reserve plane fighters will still be superior. Its flight performance and speed is average for 1.0.

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I would like to suggest that both the Strela M2 and 2S38 get an increase in BR. The Strela’s stat card is either incorrect or the missile is not implemented correctly, as it clearly has both IRCCM and some degree of all-aspect capabilities, neither of which is reflected on the stat card, yet appear in game. That’s fine, but give it a battle rating to match if it is to be an unflareable menace like that, not the lowest BR which is assigned to missile AA.

Furthermore, the 2S38 needs a serious increase in battle rating. It’s mobility is on par with the best of the Russian tree, its weaponry is spectacular with almost as much armor penetration as the 152mm gun on the MBT70 in a 57mm autocannon package, it represents extremely effective anti-aircraft capabilities which come without warning to RWR systems and which are again, immune to countermeasures due to its optical nature. It would be perfectly competitive at a much higher BR.

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Z19, ka50 should have higher br and object279 because he is too op on this current br

The SU-122-54’s UFP is angled at 50º instead of 60º like on the T-54s.

This means that stuff like the American long 90 mm cannon can go through.

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the stat card doesnt shows that it has irccm, because it doesnt have it, it only have a really small fov, and it does shows that it is all aspect, 3km.

The Netz moving to 12.3 is dumb, It is as of currently nigh-identical to the American block 10 but it has Python 3s and no GBU-8s. Python 3s aren’t that much better than AIM-9Ls, any missile without IRCCM is equally super easy to flare off.

The variant of Netz we have ingame is representing the 1982 model, only the 1987 model trialed the Python 3s in the early 90s.

Gaijin should remove the Python 3s from the current Netz, rename it into “Netz (1982)”, and add the Netz (1987) which will have the following features:

  • Additional AN/ALE-40 countermeasure pods on vertical stabilizer base and between rear fuselage fins, totalling 180x countermeasure charges
  • Bigger horizontal stabilizers of the F-16A block 15, tho the aircraft itself is still a block 10.
  • New RWR/DECM: AN/ALQ-178(V)1 Rapport. DECM functionality can be added once ECM jamming comes to the game.
  • Access to Python 3s

Note: when Rafael trialed the Python 3s on the Netz, they installed them on new pylons, which could possibly be BOL pods but I have no confirmation of this.

mq
mq-1
mq-2
mq-3

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If they Change the Tiger H1 and E BR should the Pz.Bef.Wg.VI P go up as well ?

Still it has Ferdinand level protection, but it’s very mobile and it has 8.0 BR level cannon, 400mm HEAT-FS and 330mm APDS is almost same as 8.0 Leopard 1… Just bc of that’s cannon Su-122-54 should be 7.3.
Don’t forget it also has 2x 14.5mm machine gun coaxial and roof mounted which annihilating light tanks and roof MG the planes.
there is NO SINGLE POINT to let Su-122-54 be on 6.7. It’s 7.3/7.7 BR vehicle, change my mind.

They’re both premiums, so we’ll see.

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T-69 II G and T-55AM-1 are both equal premium tanks and both are fine in 8.7br. T-69 has slightly better ammo but T-55 has better armor overall. There in no reason to raise br of either of these!

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279 and t55am would Like to Talk to you

Yeah, the base Pershing being put at the same BR of the Panther II and KT H/105 KT is some of the worst BR change decisions this game has ever seen (and unsurprising some people are unironically defending it because they know they are bad at the game and can’t win without a BS advantage like that). But I don’t think the KT H should be 7.3, 7.0 is more like it.

To be honest I think that rank 4 was mostly balanced already, tank wise, the only change I would do was to move Panther II/KT H/SLA/105 KT to 7.0. Gaijin is just doing a mess changing BRs everywhere for no reason other than some pointless chart.

Sorry, my mistake. I assumed with 7.000 battles played you know the 3 planes. After checking your vehicle stats just 3 remarks:

  1. You never flew the F4U-4b or any F8F on this account, maybe you have an old account (like me, and i flew all 3 planes), but claiming that F4U-4b and F8Fs have similar performance like the F2G is a actually not reflecting my experiences.
  2. As you asked for Air SB - I assumed that you use MEC permanently. Of course 0% throttle with 100% prop pitch is a perfectly useable airbrake - in addition to the landing gear; you can release the gear at very high speed.
    In any way my statement was wrong without further explanation.
    Maybe i killed to many inexperienced F4U-4b pilots (they can use gear too) and the more experienced F2Gs i met were aware of the artificial airbrake prop pitch and gear. Nvm, i was objectively seen wrong, sorry for that.
  3. You have rather limited success in the F2G (15 simulator battles, 76 realistic battles) with a k/d of ~1.3 in both modes, so i understand your frustration; especially if you have to fight jets it is not really easy. I had similar experiences fighting F-80s, Meteors and A2D-1s some years ago with the “unnerfed” Re 2005 at 6.0.

As you describe my post as unfounded and ignoring the rest of your post i see no need for further exchanges.
Have a good one!

Can’t wait to play Tiger 1 and panthers vs IS-3 VERY BALANCED… 159mm/190mm penetration vs IS-3. And gaijin says there is no russian bias… pure hypocrisy.

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move the KA50 AND KA52 as well don’t be biased

QN506 needs more APFSDS belt and buff on its mini rocket.mobility which is worse than mbt. the only easy way for you to get a kill is to shoot side amour and usually you will die because the mbt is faster than you. Kf 41 just needs more missiles

German changes seem good. As a Brit main however the centurion mk2 br increase is rediculous. The armour and gun combo will be outclassed and kills off one of the few Brit tanks still worth its salt (providing its ammo doesn’t shatter on a random biece of paper that might fly by).

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Wouldn’t it be better to add the ammunition that they actually use to the TAM family tanks that are in the game and raise them to 9.0 in the case of the normal ones, while the 2c 10.7 ?
Also they could add the TAM 2CA2 version so the Argentinians have a TAM at 12.0.