Planned Battle Rating Changes for October 2024

when could we expect the br changes and will dm53 replace dm43 for the leopard 2 pl or be a new mod for it?

Yep, I didn’t forget, I already wrote it here, Planned Battle Rating Changes for October 2024 - #1660 by nemo333339 , a few comments above. It’s litteraly the same plane of a F86A5, it never made sense to be higher.

Honestly I think the guy who assigned the original br got confused with the German CL13.

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Literally my suggestion at all times

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RB/SB, F-4J(UK) . 12.0 > 11.7. As both the F-4EJ’s are moving down I think it would be good to drop the F-4J(UK) by one br bracket as well. It currently sits at 12.0. Similarly to the overal better F-4S.

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Ho-Ri Prototype 6.7 → 6.3 or 6.0 - Ground Realistic

It has good gun as heavy tanks of the same BR and that’s all it has going on. Some parts of it are well armored, but on the other hand it has extremely large weakspots, which can be penetrated by any vehicle you should be facing. Even rarely met BR 5.7 M4A3E2 can penetrate your frontal armor from good range. Same thing against all light tanks. Those big weakspots are in such a position that you cannot practically ever cover all of them if any at all.

It is also one of the least mobile vehicles. Jagdtiger and T95 can at least get their gun on target relatively fast thanks to neutral steering, but Ho-Ri doesn’t have such.

Compared to Ferdinand at same BR, it is simply worse in every single way. Jagdtiger and SU-122-54 at least reloads slower, but in all other ways they are far superior at same BR. Jagdpather at 6.3 doesn’t lose to it either.

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Air Realistic Battles(Air RB), B-29, 7.3 > 6.7, reasoning:

  1. Heavily overtiered. Placed directly at the same BR as the jets that were directly designed to counter it (MiG-9).
  2. Defensive armament is woefully underpowered against 7.3+ jets and is highly susceptable to .50 cal damage model changes.
  3. Should not be tied in BR considerations with the Tu-4 which has massively improved defensive armament and better bomb payload.

PS. I am a person of a very anti-bomber mindset and usually harbour disdain for the low skill they choose to show in this game knowing full well how powerful bombers can be when played with tactics in mind. But B-29 currently is so out of place that it makes me feel pity for those who try to play it against 7.3-7.7 jets.

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The thing is before these changes you would get up tiered a lot and even when you got down tiered it’s still not a very enjoyable experience the JA-37c would still be there for 11.3 and the other two ground attack ones are also alright but I’d rather be able to put the incredibly good radar the viggen has to use with a actual good long rang missile cause the rb71 is just so bad. Also the whole purpose of the JA-37D was to have fox3s on a aircraft until the gripen was put in service.

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I’m not familiar with the British air tree but is there two of the same version of tornadoes with just different missiles ?

Can the Seafire Mk III go to 4.3 in Air Realistic? It has no performance advantage over the 4.3 Spitfire F Mk IX to justify being +0.7 BR higher.

A popular Russian streamer made a 16/3 run in this thing with all 3 deaths being completely due to poor judgement proving that the plane can be literally unkillable in theory at the current BR.

Air RB, Sea Vixen. 8.7 > 8.7. It does not belong to 9.0, seeing uptiers into 10.0 it will suffer for not being supersonic, not having any guns and not having flares. The thing is fine at 8.7, it serves as support aircraft. The missiles already were nerfed, there is no reason to change it to 9.0.

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AB/RB/SB, Leopard 2K: reload time decrease to 6 seconds
10.0 is the same BR as the Leopard 2AV which has some actual armor.
I think the standard Leo 2 reload of 6 seconds is fair for this one.

GB,Otomatic,11.3→10.7
It’s basically just a 2S38 with radar and only 12 rounds of APFSDS,hard to kill any jets even helis at 11.3 even 11.7.

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ARB - USAF F-16A 12.7 > 12.3 (Carries nothing but fox 2 without IRCCM / AIM-9L)

ARB - Netz 13.0 > 12.3 (Carries nothing but fox 2 without IRCCM / Python 3)

ARB - Mirage 2000D 12.3 > 12.0 (Has no business at the same BR as the 2000C-S5)

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So, F4C to 10.0 and then move every single 9.0-9.7 aircraft down to 8.7 and below? Seems a bit excessive to me.

Not a single 9.0 aircraft oculd win a fight against an F-4C

ARB - F-20A 12.7 > 12.3 (It doesn’t make sense this is higher br than the 2000C-S5)

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ARB - A-10C 11.3 > 12.0 (Does this even need explaining?)

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ARB - F-4C 10.7 > 10.0 (Does this even need explaining?)

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