Planned Battle Rating Changes for October 2024

The more modern vehicles like Leopard 2A7, STRV 122B and T-90M should be higher than 12.0

Yep. Tornado F3 and F3 Late. Only difference is the F3 Late replaces Aim-9Ls for Aim-9Ms and gets Aim-120Bs

Whilst your request for a loss of the airspawn sounds reasonable, your overall assessment of the Wyvern in Air RB looks not comprehensible.

Imho your request simply fails to pass a “reality check”. I might change my mind if you show me a single premium prop (or turbo-prop) which had lost its air spawn.

  1. Changing the air spawn looks like a mission impossible as the plane is classified as a strike aircraft. In order to follow your request gaijin has either to implement a “special rule” or to change the designation to “fighter” in order to be consistent - this would infuriate the imho very large player base which already owns a Wyvern and uses them a base bomber / strike aircraft - why should gaijin do this?

  2. Idc about Ground RB, but for Air RB the current BR is still too low.

  3. The game is full of experienced players abusing the excellent climb up to 5 km in order to farm regular fighters (as they ignore bombers) in their climb phase. Your assessment of “equal in overall performance to other airframes” looks like made from a parallel universe; right here and right now there is no faster plane at sea level and no plane with 1,200 rounds of highly effective 20 mm cannons which can outdive almost all of his opponents (rip speed at high alt > 870 kmph, low alt 844).

  4. On top of that: You as an experienced Air SB pilot should have noticed that a major weakness (rather poor speed retention when not flying straight) is only present if their pilot use MnK, we have highly credible sources that confirm that flown with a joystick this weakness is almost non-existent.

From a pure player perspective requesting to remain the status quo regarding BR looks comprehensible as the UK lacks (like almost all nations except US/USSR) a really good premium vehicle. But asking for a removal of the airspawn looks even more unlikely than giving US/USSR props BRs on plane performance and not player performance.

The Wyvern was launched at a BR of 5.0 8 years ago - the deterioration of player experience reduced the BR to 4.0 and now it needs an increase to 4.7…

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What the hell is the point of decompressing ground if everything is moving up a tier?

Yeah that would be a good option but the JA-37c exists so I doubt they would add a second D model for only rb99s unfortunately so I’d say this is the best shot to get a viggen with fox3s

There is always something like the JA37Di to be added

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My reply was in the context of having 14.0 decompression. The Mirage 4K has up to 8x IRCCM missiles, while everything else at 13.0 only has 9Ls at best.

If we’re talking the more compressed 13.7 max BR we have right now then sure, 13.0 would be totally fine. It belongs at the same BR as the F-15A in my opinion.

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Naval RB, Dupleix : 5.7 > 5.3. It is the same class as the Colbert (that is BR 5.3), and while its slighty more armored,it has less gun and is also slower. It’s already one of the weakeast heavy cruiser in the game and should be 5.3 along the Colbert. Is does not deserve to be at 5.7. Or maybe consider giving Dupleix (and other French ship that used them) their missing APCBC ammo.

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I forgot is that the one that just got English cockpits or the one with the camera in the nose ?

Englsih cockpit I think.

Ah okay yeah that would probably be something they add (I hope) I just want a viggen with fox 3s so bad lol

Air Realistic battles, Hunter F.6 (british). 9.7 > 9.3 reasoning. the hunter F58 has counter measures, better missiles (sraams dont even reach 1km anymore) has better engine, RWR, better flight performance at the exact same BR, while the french F6 sits at 9.3.

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You never played a Leo 2A7

F-14A will not be able to survive on 12.7, because it will be hitted to hard with AIM-120. It is already to easy target on 12-13 RB

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also why is the chieftain mk10 going to 9.3?? the khalid that is the same tank without the stillbrew is sitting at 9.3 and the only reason it can perform there at all is the extra mobility.

the mk10 cheiftain should stay at 9.0.
or the mk5 should get a lRF and the better round it used IRL as per the bug reports (for LRF) and maybe go to 9.0

the mk10 chieftain is not worthy of 9.3 at all if all the other chieftains dont move up.

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Bro didn’t read that.

Also, in almost every respect, including in terms of FOV, range, and speed, the PL-5B is far better to the R-60 that the 10.7BR MiG-21 has. And that’s why J-7D can’t have same BR with MiG-21MF/SMT.

MiG-21MF/SMT is 10.7 in ARB.
I have no idea what the hell are you talking about.


The only gamemode in which the J-7D has the same BR as the MiG-21MF/SMT is SBEC.

All modes, XM8, 9.7>10.3

To make the XM8 more Interesting and unique compared to other 105mm armed light tanks i suggest the following changes.

  • Add 40mm Mk. 19 grenade launcher.
  • Add working blow-out panels.
  • Add M900 round.
  • Add missing smoke grenade launchers when it has level 3 armor equipped.

it will be fine, it absolutely clubs right now at 12.7. or havent you seen them completely filling lobbies. or when a team has 4 and the other had none. its extremely tedious for people not using them to fight against.

That’s true, as MiG-21bis enjoyer I felt pain of Phoenix, but if so many aircraft such bis or migs 23 are getting to 11, it should stop unfairness of small count of countermeasures

You mean like how 11.3s are unfun to play when they see any F-14? I’m all for making F-14s suffer for a while.