Air RB, Sea Vixen. 8.7 > 8.7. It does not belong to 9.0, seeing uptiers into 10.0 it will suffer for not being supersonic, not having any guns and not having flares. The thing is fine at 8.7, it serves as support aircraft. The missiles already were nerfed, there is no reason to change it to 9.0.
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AB/RB/SB, Leopard 2K: reload time decrease to 6 seconds
10.0 is the same BR as the Leopard 2AV which has some actual armor.
I think the standard Leo 2 reload of 6 seconds is fair for this one.
GB,Otomatic,11.3→10.7
It’s basically just a 2S38 with radar and only 12 rounds of APFSDS,hard to kill any jets even helis at 11.3 even 11.7.
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ARB - USAF F-16A 12.7 > 12.3 (Carries nothing but fox 2 without IRCCM / AIM-9L)
ARB - Netz 13.0 > 12.3 (Carries nothing but fox 2 without IRCCM / Python 3)
ARB - Mirage 2000D 12.3 > 12.0 (Has no business at the same BR as the 2000C-S5)
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So, F4C to 10.0 and then move every single 9.0-9.7 aircraft down to 8.7 and below? Seems a bit excessive to me.
Not a single 9.0 aircraft oculd win a fight against an F-4C
ARB - F-20A 12.7 > 12.3 (It doesn’t make sense this is higher br than the 2000C-S5)
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ARB - A-10C 11.3 > 12.0 (Does this even need explaining?)
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ARB - F-4C 10.7 > 10.0 (Does this even need explaining?)
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The more modern vehicles like Leopard 2A7, STRV 122B and T-90M should be higher than 12.0
Yep. Tornado F3 and F3 Late. Only difference is the F3 Late replaces Aim-9Ls for Aim-9Ms and gets Aim-120Bs
Whilst your request for a loss of the airspawn sounds reasonable, your overall assessment of the Wyvern in Air RB looks not comprehensible.
Imho your request simply fails to pass a “reality check”. I might change my mind if you show me a single premium prop (or turbo-prop) which had lost its air spawn.
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Changing the air spawn looks like a mission impossible as the plane is classified as a strike aircraft. In order to follow your request gaijin has either to implement a “special rule” or to change the designation to “fighter” in order to be consistent - this would infuriate the imho very large player base which already owns a Wyvern and uses them a base bomber / strike aircraft - why should gaijin do this?
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Idc about Ground RB, but for Air RB the current BR is still too low.
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The game is full of experienced players abusing the excellent climb up to 5 km in order to farm regular fighters (as they ignore bombers) in their climb phase. Your assessment of “equal in overall performance to other airframes” looks like made from a parallel universe; right here and right now there is no faster plane at sea level and no plane with 1,200 rounds of highly effective 20 mm cannons which can outdive almost all of his opponents (rip speed at high alt > 870 kmph, low alt 844).
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On top of that: You as an experienced Air SB pilot should have noticed that a major weakness (rather poor speed retention when not flying straight) is only present if their pilot use MnK, we have highly credible sources that confirm that flown with a joystick this weakness is almost non-existent.
From a pure player perspective requesting to remain the status quo regarding BR looks comprehensible as the UK lacks (like almost all nations except US/USSR) a really good premium vehicle. But asking for a removal of the airspawn looks even more unlikely than giving US/USSR props BRs on plane performance and not player performance.
The Wyvern was launched at a BR of 5.0 8 years ago - the deterioration of player experience reduced the BR to 4.0 and now it needs an increase to 4.7…
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What the hell is the point of decompressing ground if everything is moving up a tier?
Yeah that would be a good option but the JA-37c exists so I doubt they would add a second D model for only rb99s unfortunately so I’d say this is the best shot to get a viggen with fox3s
There is always something like the JA37Di to be added
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My reply was in the context of having 14.0 decompression. The Mirage 4K has up to 8x IRCCM missiles, while everything else at 13.0 only has 9Ls at best.
If we’re talking the more compressed 13.7 max BR we have right now then sure, 13.0 would be totally fine. It belongs at the same BR as the F-15A in my opinion.
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Naval RB, Dupleix : 5.7 > 5.3. It is the same class as the Colbert (that is BR 5.3), and while its slighty more armored,it has less gun and is also slower. It’s already one of the weakeast heavy cruiser in the game and should be 5.3 along the Colbert. Is does not deserve to be at 5.7. Or maybe consider giving Dupleix (and other French ship that used them) their missing APCBC ammo.
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I forgot is that the one that just got English cockpits or the one with the camera in the nose ?
Englsih cockpit I think.