Planned Battle Rating Changes for October 2024

Yes? Can we get M900 for the Regular M1 Abrams and keep it at the same BR? Hell no. There is a reason why you want DM33 (because it will make the vehicle more broken), and you don’t want any of the repercussions (it going to a higher BR).

Compared to the D model, the additional x2 AIM-9J and CM would not fit in one BR step.

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T-80 BVM - reduce reload to 5.6 - 6 seconds.

It’s worse than the STRVs and Leopard 2A7 in most ways, and is still USSRs best tank. It loses to almost all top tier tanks in a 1-1 when it doesn’t get a OHK.

Not superior to all of them, but I agree with the sentiment. It should go up to 9.3.

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Tank - Falcon
Mode - GRB
Br* (clone added without APDS round at 7.3)

Add a clone of the Falcon (or make moduels/ammo that affect BR placement) and stick it at 7.3 to fill a SPAA gap, and it would be simmlar to the ZSU -23 without radar/M163

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Everything else is moving up with it, so I don’t see the issue tbh

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please dont do this

it will hurt the game

it means 10.0 aircraft will now have to deal with high-G PD missiles

which means less safe haven for actual gameplay and more for brainless missile spam

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It would be better than the M163, and maybe slightly better than the Shilka without radar.

RB, ZSL92, 6.7 > 7.3 (or higher). This vehicle should receive scouting and APDS and act in a similar fashion to the Wiesel 1A4. China has lots of actual SPAAG vehicle to fill this gap, such as the WZ554…

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(realistic), f-4j phantom 2. 12.0< 11.3/11.7
Reasoning: man, it’s just unfair to play this aircraft in a full uptier(which in my case, happens all the time), in 13.0 they all have IRCCM misiles, very good radar misiles, and speed, and the most annoying thing about this aircraft, is that the radar doesn’t work, it never locks something, i know that it has HMD but it’s there for nothing, cuse it doesnt lock anything, even the ACQ doesnt work, its just unfair

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GRB, AMX-13 FL11, 4.3 > 3.7.

AMX-13 FL11 has no real advantages over the M24, besides being smaller. It’s the same cannon, except M24 gets a vertical stabilizer and a 50cal. They have comparable mobility aswell.

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Yeah, RIP 10.0s

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my mirage IIIC 😢

Tank - SIDAM25
Mode - GRB
Br* (clone added without APDS belt at 7.3 or 7.7)

Add a clone of the SIDAM25 (or make moduels/ammo that affect BR placement) and stick it at 7.3 to fill a SPAA gap

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How about bringing the F-84f’s down because they are getting slaughtered without their air spawn(except the USA one cause that makes sense)

No changes to the F8U-2?

Wow.

Seemingly not the most intelligent set of BR changes this time. Not only were there some notable omissions, but there were some rather strange changes and the changes that did make sense would have been far better solved by instead moving the top dogs up a few steps to create room (i.e. decompression much like what was done earlier this year).

The J-11 and Su-27 are examples of this. These planes deserve to be more than 0.3 below the 13.7 roster, but that does not mean that planes with an offensive arsenal such as these should be moved down so that 12.0s (including things like the F-4J!!) can see them.

The F-16A for Belgium is no different. This plane has the very competitive F-16A flight model (albeit not a block 10) aswell as having 6 AIM-9Ms. It did need to be moved further from the 13.7s, but by no means did it need to be moved down.

The story is much the same for the F-16AJ, F-16 MLU and the F-16A ADFs. These planes did need breathing room from the top-tiers, but also are far too strong to be seen by 11.7s.

The Tomcats going up is a pleasant change, although I think the F-14A IRIAF could potentially have gone up two steps given that it is close the the F-14B in effectiveness.

The F-4EJs I thought were in a fairly good spot. Moving them down seems a smidge unnecessary, but not a major issue. I suppose it reflects that they lack Agile-Eagle and thus are not as effective as the other F-4Es.

The MiG-21bis, while lauded by many as being mid, were actually pretty damn strong at 11.3 and I think that 11.0 is far too low, especially given the fact that we still have quite a few planes lacking countermeasures at 10.0 and even 10.3. This was an unnecessary change.

The F-5A and F-5C, while not being bad, were a little out of their depth at 11.0 and while the BR lowering wasn’t necessary, it isn’t a problem either.

It made sense to move the Mirage 5BA down since it has both a worse FM and a worse kit than the Mirage IIIE at the same BR. This was a good change.

The F-4C was extremely poor after the most recent BR changes and so desperately needed to come down.

The A-5C was strong for 10.3, and so I think going to 10.7 is fine considering how strong Magics are right now.

Moving the supersonics around the 9.0-10.0 area upwards is always welcome since it relieves pressure on the extremely compressed 9.3 region, so moving the Q-5s and Su-7s up was good. But why not do the same for the F-104, MiG-19 and Lightning. Even after the FM nerf, the Starfighter is still inappropriate for 9.3.

I think the F3H-2 struggled enough at 9.3 to warrant going down, so this is ok.

The Dutch Hunter F.6 was very good at 9.0 and so I think 9.3 is okay, but keep in mind that the compression at 9.3 is so severe that even this minor change will radically change the effectiveness of this plane.

The Sea Vixen moving up is fine, mainly because it is extremely frustrating to deal with in subsonics, not because it was particularly great.

Now it gets interesting

The Me 262 A-1/U4 to 6.3. Damn. While the plane might not be that effective due to the 50mm, it is still way wayyy to fast to be 6.3.

And then the goddamn F8F-1 to 4.7??. The plane clocks 650 IAS on the deck and climbs at 30 m/s. Sure, it is limited by the guns, the thermodynamics and the energy retention, but it is way too powerful to be 4.7. please revert this.

There are of course some notable omissions. Where was the J-7E, the A-10C (and by that matter all vehicles with IRCCM missiles below 12.0) - not that the A-10C is good, but it just has a completely inappropriate weapons kit for its BR. Where was the Wyverns BR change? What about the goddamn F8U-2. Why hasn’t the BR of planes with the new NS-45 APHE changed in GRB? The Yak-9K can get 5-6 kills per fly out in GRB without even trying. I am not by any means a good ground player and I have been reliably getting results like this with the new 45.

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Putting the SU-7s on 9.7 will ruin them completly. 9.3 is already painfull because the only thing they have is decent speed.

Tank - AMX-30s DCA
Mode - GRB
Br* (clone added without APDS rounds at 8.0 or 8.3)

Add a clone of the AMX-30s DCA (or make moduels/ammo that affect BR placement) and stick it at 8.0 to fill a SPAA gap

Panstir S1 still 11.7? this thing should goes to 12.0! even 12.3

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