mode: Air RB
vehicle: S.O.4050 Vautour IIB. 9.0 > 8.7
reason: It’s a big plane that can’t turn well, has zero guns for self defense or for ground pounding, and it has no air spawn so strike aircraft can usually reach bases before it can.
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ARB R2Y2s 8.0>7.7-7.3 Reasoning: Through the years the planes have lost their airspawn, had their gun’s muzzle velocity reduced/fixed but had their br increased leaving Japan with only the kikka as their only competitive jet in the bracket. In the current br it lacks the t/w to compete even with 7.7 jets. It shares performance with 7.3 jets and while it’s gun’s and maneuverability might be better it doesn’t warrant an 8.0 br.
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Ground RB, T-29, 6.7 > 7.0, under performs when uptiered.
You have a point, but if TURM were moved to 8.7, then it would have to fight vehicles with laser rangefinder while it doesn’t even have an optical one. And though the ammunition works fine at current BR, it would be a big problem when you suffer to pen vehicles in 8.7-9.7. So I guess 8.3 is just fine for a skill-required vehicle.
100% agreed
i played mig 23 back in the day when multipathing was a thing and i understand they might be worse than phantoms in some aspects, but the difference between them isnt that great (except maybe the first mig 23 which really cant do shit with SARH), still, they dont deserve to face 10.0…
GRB, M26, 6.7 > 6.3.
Now hear me out. M26s are pretty much Panther equivalents, yet they sit at a 0.7 higher BR. Their firepower is very similar, so is the mobility. Panthers dont have much of a problem penetrating Pershings at ranges <800m, much like how the Pershings dont have much of a problem penetrating Panthers aswell. Making the M26 atleast 6.3 would be a step in the right direction.
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The thing is, there is not skill required for it at 8.3. It can UFP most vehicles at its own BR and lower. It only starts having issues at 8.7+, which would then require people using it to play a bit more carefully.
12.0–>11.3 or 11.7 Rb F-104S.ASA
With the current brs this f104 can see fox 3s that are of course hard to evade but with this being an f104 you cant stay close to the ground because you cant turn fast enough to quickly evade a hill pr tree, also your missiles are subpar for the br and most planes are faster than you in an uptier (f104s only advantage) all this combined makes it almost unplayable at the current br
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If it weren’t for the pantsir there’d be zero counter to CAS
0 counter to any other CAS other than Russian
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And you talk about skill issue with 35% win ratio in Tiger E, really???
Air Rb, J7D, 11.0>10.7 . I think due to the J7D’s comparatively worse missile kit load out, and similar flight performance to the other mig21’s changing BR from 11.3>11.0, the B.R of the J7D should reflect its relative downgrade in performance against the other mig 21’s receiving a lower BR. These mig21’s such as the mig21 bis SAU, should remain at a comparatively higher BR, rather than evening out with the J7D. Therefore if these mig 21’s go down by .3 B.R the J7D should as well.
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I don’t mind either way really, regardless of what happens I still get something out of it.
If it get’s moved down the A-10C moves actually becomes useful and if it doesn’t get moved down I can always enjoy free RP piniatas in my Pantsir, still need to finish spading that thing anyway.
simulator, Sagittario 2. 8.0 > 9.3. sagittario absolutely destroys most of 9.0 aircraft, let alone those at 8.0 or even 7.0!!
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Noob players flock to germany due to people hearing they are impossible to kill. Thats the reason the VK is 5.0 despite it being under BR’d honestly the only time a tiger E suffers is in 6.7 aside from that they are pretty good imo.
They don’t deserve to face 10.0, I totally agree, but at the same time they shouldn’t be facing 12.3 either. The MiG-23 and MiG-23MF have a limited pool of countermeasures, mediocre radar, bad radar missiles, and while the R-60M is a capable missile for dogfights, it’s an extremely short ranged weapon. Sure, the R-23T isn’t bad but I’ve never seen them ever be much of an issue. The only 10.0s that they have an advantage over are those w/o flares. Everything else will wreck them in a dogfight cough the under BR’d F8U-2 cough
Yeah it only counters CAS from 1 team while the the team that has the Pantsir has almost free reign around the battlefield.
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M551 sheridan from 8.3 to 8.0. The reload is abysmal, the ATGM itself is mediocre. It does not get a LRF. It’s armour is pretty bad, but it has a stabilizer and decent mobility.
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Have you played both?? Ive gotten back to back nukes with my challys. The abrams on the other hand, if i get shot ounce any where my engine and gun are always both out then im already dead at that point because 7 seconds later hes gonna shoot me again. So yes the abrams is worse imo.