Planned Battle Rating Changes for October 2024

Tech-tree adjustement dictated by logic for Japan:

Switch places between the Yugumo and the Hatsuharu, because the Hatsuharu is a downgrade of this previous ship in almost every way.

He clearly meant ARB where the Su-25Ts might as well be better trying to get lucky headons with vikhrs.

Air Simulator (maybe realistic), Su-39. 11.7 > 12.0.

This plane is too oppressive with very good all-aspect Pulse-Doppler radar, IRCCM missiles, Vikhrs with proximity fuse which can be used a makeshift air-air missiles (targeting optics can be slaved to radar lock which is a huge advantage to this tactic).

Situational awareness is top priority in simulator battles and this plane has too much of it for 11.7. Given how 11.7 remains top bracket in majority of the rotations, this plane is doing too good for a strike aircraft. I have seen a Su-39 repeatedly farm a German Mig-21 once, I felt bad for that guy. That Mig-21 had poor situational awareness against this Su-39 and there was nothing he could do unless he can somehow maintain 360 degree visual awareness.

Please move the SU-39 up by a step or give it R-77s and move it up accordingly.

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Yeah my bad, just realized and deleted comment.

so when will the R2y2’s get downtiered again, same with the kikka for RB
its too high of a BR, sometimes they become unplayable

Maybe 9.0.
If anything, the BRs of other aircraft should be changed, not CL-13. such as F3H, Hunters, afterburning MiG-17, J32B, etc.

When the CL-13B was implemented in 2019, it functioned quite decently as a counterpart to the above aircraft.

can i know which other 10.7 deltas are there?

Yes fine LOL. Need go back 6.3 asap (USA heavies in 6.3 and 6.7 are over 60%)
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Do you think it’s easier to move a few problematic vehicles up in BR, or move all the ‘underperforming’ ones down in BR.

Realistic, SU-7BMK. 9.3>9.7. With its current change being moved to 9.7 I think is an unjust decision without at least considering these points:

  1. the aircraft can just about reach mach 1.0, but the structure of the wings struggle to meet the integrity when going such a pace.
  2. lack of countermeasures, this aircraft will be moved to see aircraft which carry AIM-9G missiles which would decimate this aircraft and be seen as unplayable.
  3. lack of Air to Air missiles, this is an understandable factor, that this aircraft is nothing but a bomber, but when it has no countermeasures against previously mentioned weaponry it will not survive a chance at this BR and should be carefully considered prior to the next BR changes
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Air/Ground RB: BAC Strikemaster mk.88. 6.3 > 6.7/7.0 with armament addition SUU-11 7.62mm minigun pods.

Reason: The Strikemaster is an exceptionally effective ground attack plane on its current BR, arguably an overperforming aircraft compared to other ground attack craft with the main reason for its lower BR being that it is only equiped with FN MAGs with a relatively lower rate of fire and damage output. With miniguns equiped (as shown on image of an Omani mk 82) it would massively increase its air to air capabilities, allowing the jet to be in a more reasonable/balanced position with respect to its other weapon systems.

With the changes, each pod will go from having 2x 425 round 950rpm machine guns to 1 1500 round, 3000/6000 rpm minigun, increasing burst mass significantly and allowing the jet to have a better air to air capability, allowing it to have a more suitable BR.

Sadly, I am unable to find much more about this loadouts trials beyond the image.

(assuming that it would be carrying pods on all 4 pylons, 2 on each in the image for balancing of the aircraft)

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Another offender is the F8U-2, at the same level of the J-7E but at 10.0, completely overpowered and mops the floor with anything in a downtier and strong enough to deal with whatever threat it faces in uptiers, it should be at least 10.3

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Air RB, A-10C. 11.3 > 11.7 at least. The A-10C, while not having a great airframe for the battle rating, has incredibly strong missiles. It is unfair for 10.3 planes to have to face AIM-9Ms.

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Considering how TS misportrays the average KD of vehicles to be circa 2, this seems pretty bad.
What was the vehicle in question?

The F8U-2 is dominating that entire bracket, can’t believe it’s not being adjusted.

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I dont care about the average noob skill. Any decent player who knows what they are doing are fine with the 2P, and which 6.3 US heavies are doing better? I know you dont mean the Jumbo though i also enjoy that tank also. I agree 6.7 US is awful to fight but i also refuse to think that the 2p which i love is that bad.

Tank - Tam/ Tam 2ip
Mode - GRB
BR - 8.7 ->9.0 9.0 → 9.3

I know its two vehicles but they are very simmlar, already powerfull and with other BR changes would become even stronger. In general alot of other 7.7 - 9.0 tanks need reajusting

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Ground RB, T-2 9.7 > 9.3
No countermeasures, no RWR, no standoff capability and with that not even CCIP nor CCRP and at 9.7 no possibility to be included in ground lineup. 9.3 ground lineup for japan is very interesting one but as it stands right now gets constant uptiers to 10.3 where f-86 f-40 is far from competetive. Even though quite a few vehicles get raised to 10.7 the 10.3 matches will still be a major outcome for 9.3 lineups.

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Ground RB, Breda 501. 4.7 > 5.0. Please no!!! Already fragile at 4.7, no reason to move to 5.0 plus it breaks Italian 4.7 lineup… Thanks.

AJ 37, and i dont remember but there might be one on isreal. Though i think the Kfir is 11.0