It doesn’t really matter how good the guns are when the flight performance makes it so that you can’t even use the guns.
Lim-5p, MiG-17PF, CL-13MK.5 can shred the F-2 without it even being able to get guns on target.
But I do agree that the 20mms are potent when they decide to go guns-on, or if you do third-party / fight a crappier vehicle.
I did but i asked them to consider it anyway because 1 aircraft is not enough when there are so many aircraft with bad battle ratings.
Yes that is why I put mode - GRB
I mean current F8U-2 is just sidegrade of F-8E so, it is possible to have same BR with that.
However, “possible” doesn’t mean it should.
but Shenyang is far than being Overtiered,… F-5 is a MiG-17F with Afterburning engine
Would love to know on what basis you could possibly bring the Q-5s up to an even higher BR.
both Yak-38 and harrier GR1 need to have their performance and capabilities reviewed, as they WERE at a time both really capable aircraft, but if you can be 9L’d or R-60’d without at least some defensive capability, how can they be expected to perform or at least have a fighting chance, I fully agree with your point, maybe not 9.0 but both aircraft suffer so hard with today’s aircraft and weaponary at the current BR
As far as people are concerned all swedish vehicles are OP, especially this thing which is alright at 4.0 but far from anything great.
(Air AB) French F-100D 9.7 > 9.3 - like the american one which is better in every way and is 9.3 since years!!!
Sidenote : same situation for the chinese F-100A.
Netz should be 12.3 it would be the same br as the mirage2000 and it has radar missle and magics nets only has pythons
Ground RB, Pantsir S1. 11.7 > 12.0. This AA system is the strongest in the game, and should be a BR notch above the rest of the vehicles such as the ADATS, Tor-M1, ItO-90, and FlaRakRad.
Due to its awful fire rate and shell velocity, VEAK 40 is much closer in capability to M163 than Yenisei against aircraft. Although VEAK 40 can start shooting further out, M163 is much better against aircraft at very close ranges due its 5x higher rate of fire. Yenisei absolutely does not deserve to be 8.0, it was already there previously before getting moved down to 7.7, and even at its current BR it’s an unremarkable SPAA.
Im honestly suprised people can read since a lot of people when i mention it scream 9.0 or whereever the A4E is since they think the 105 is better in every regard to the A4E lol
Plane - sea metor f mk3
Mode - ARB
BR - 7.3 → 7.7
Second best 7.3 in the game ATM after su-11 and not by much, should be 7.7
(Air AB) French F-84F. 9.0 > 8.7 - like the israeli and german ones which are identical. Terrible flight performance for a 9.0 aircraft. This inconsistency is in the game since these vehicles were added!!!
Sidenote : same situation for the american and italian F-84F.
M163 is unstabilized, does not get two guns, does not get a search radar, is open top, and the 20mm it fires are only good against aircraft at close ranges - nothing else.
The Veak 40 is in a MUCH better position than the M163, and I cannot understand why you think they should be the same BR.
That’s simply because MiG-17PF/Lim-5P is undertiered.
It is quite ridiculous that they has same BR with regular MiG-17.
plane - Mirage IIIE
mode - air rb
BR - 10.7 → 10.3
reasoning: the mirage IIIE is basicaly a heavier mirage IIIC that gets flares, thats literally all it has going for it, it should not be more than 0.3 BRs higher than the C
So is the CL-13 MK.5 / MK.6 and the F4D-1, what can I say?
Air realistic battles, Su-25SM3 . 12,3 > 11.7. In terms of air to air weaponry, the SM3 is similar to the Su-25T in the tech tree and the Su-25BM event vehicle, so in my opinion 12.3 is quite high for Air RB. It would be more playable if you weren’t constantly facing F-14s and their fox-3 missiles.