Planned Battle Rating Changes for October 2024

Ground RB, KF-41 , 11.0(as proposed)>10.7

KF-41 is a lesser armored PUMA VTJF with even more unreliable Spikes and Gimmick APS that is Also unreliable

All Ground Spike Carriers should at the same br for they are similiar with little deviation via the vehicle platform

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SB being ignored again

Ground Realistic Battles, 2S6, Pantsir S1, ItO 90, FlaRakRad. Should go 0.3 BR Up.
Reasoning: Newly formed 10.7 lineups(old 10.3) shouldn’t see top tier SPAA because CAS at 10.7(and even at 11.0 for that matter) aren’t capable of any meaningfull counterplay against top tier SPAA. Idealy all listed SPAAs should receive individualised BR changes but since I’m limited in suggestions this is my proposal.
Pantsir S1 should go 12.3 just because of how capable it is, it is capable of pretty casually intercepting multiple incoming projectiles and planes. It is few heads above any other SPAA.
ItO90 should go 12.0 along with MBTs
FlaRakRad is less capable than ItO90, having less missiles in immediate availability, worse radar and worse mobility(not that it matters much but still) so it should ramain at 11.7
2S6 got it’s missile nerfed, BR lowered to 10.7, and then missile buffed back with BR not being restored to 11.0, it is has very good radar and overall is pretty capable SPAA so I convinced it definitely should go up for 0.3 as other tanks with this change.

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but to have to face aircraft such as SU25’s who have what seems to feel like a limitless supply of countermeasures, you can not do anything against, and like you siad, the Yak-38 at least has somewhat of a good offensive armament with having R-60s

Begleitpanzer 57 9,3 > 10,0. Infinite autoloader with high ROF, TOW as secondary option. Great mobility to effectivelly ingage to eney sides.

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Yeah volumatric can be very problematic.

But that wasn’t the part that the skill issue was about. The skill issue part is wanting the 279 to be moved down. It’s perfectly fine where it is now.

aircraft- Q5L
gamemode - all
br changes - none
changes: ability to carry pl2 air to air missile

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Plane - Mig 15 BIS ISH
Mode - ARB and GRB
BR - 8.0 → 8.3

It’s 1% worse then the mig 15 Bis (just ask DEFYN) which is already very good for 8.3, and for GRB CCIP rockets is too good for 8.0

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The Yak-38 has to deal with Su-25s and A-10s, same should the Harrier GR1. In no world should a fast-accelerating, decent manuevering jet with 4x SRAAMs should go anywhere near 8.0.

It was a counterpart to the F-2 Sabre since it was implemented in the game.

Idk what are you talking about.

Air RB, F-4J (USA). 12.0 > 11.7. It struggles a lot with constant up tiers, it’s unreasonable to expect it to go against F-15 when it does not have a chance against the Iranian F-14.

So the bearcat is 4.7 And can see A6M2 which is at 3.7 in a downtier
lol USA saving Pearl harbor!

what about :
1:No RAF planes got downtiered? Looking at the FG1 and FGR2 specifically

2: f3 demon goes to 9.0 with Aim 7s vs people with no RWR or chaff

3: J35 A doesnt get downtiered ? It gets smacked hard by 104s and F8U

4: ITA 104s stagnant with their AIM9P rear aspects ?

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Good luck against a 10.0 opponent with spaced armor, quicker reload, Thermals, ERA etc. though.

F-2 Sabre is a worse variant than the CL-13A Mk 5. Worse engine for 20mms doesn’t seem right.

The F8U-2 must be moved up in Air RB, it currently destroys everything it faces. It has Aim-9Ds at a BR where it faces jets with no countermeasures at all, and it has insane energy retention and can dogfight pretty much everything. Please put it to at least 10.3.

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At first I thought 10.3 was a good enough step, but honestly seeing so many people here consider 10.7 sways me to thinking that’s probably a best first step; and then reducing it to 10.3 if it underperforms. It’s essentially the same aircraft as the F8E, with a slightly weaker engine and lacking radar missiles.

Vehicle: Phantom F4J(UK)
Gamemode: Air Realistic and Air Sim
BR Change: 12.0 → 11.3
Reason:

Air Realistic: It has comprable performance to aircraft like the F-4EJ and has little justification to be a full BR higher than F-4EJ. It does have some advantages like PD and so should be 0.3 higher, but has no reason to be 12.0.

Air Sim: It is vastly inferior to the Phantom FGR2/FG1 which both sit at 11.3 already in Sim. The only reason to justify this BR is because its premium and thus can print more SL/RP. That is it. That is its only advantage. It has a worse RWR compared to them and a lower CM count, Not too mention the weaker engines.

To Gaijin: People might actually buy it if its at a sane BR

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Nobody is using it at 8.3 to begin with as 8.7 is the better lineup over 8.3, it could go to 8.7 for ground since its only good their but for the people that want it at 9.0 air and such are silly

If you die to it in air as a fighter you are a clown. Seriously, especially all the 8.7 jets pushed to 8.0, you literally cant lose unless you’re bad

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As a HSTV-L user, I must point out that it does have better mobility and depression than 2S38, but the low ammo pool, slower firerate and lack of damage on ammo is on a ridiculous level. How is this thing 11.3 when we have 2S38 at 10.0 and Begleitpanzer at 9.3? It should only be 0.3 BR higher than 2S38 if not the same.

EDIT: Ohh I also forgot that 2S38 has crisp gen 3 thermals and LWS while you can barely see anything with HSTV-L’s gen 1 thermals, how are you suppose to aim for weakspots with that blurry pixel mess… HSTV-L is a sidegrade to 2S38 not an upgrade.

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move the top br for aircraft in ground rb to 13.0. otherwise top tier will be ruined by premium 1 death leavers. the fact this hasnt been addressed is criminal. if it goes through as is this will be the single worst change to top tier in years.