Just like Mig23s
The Sea Fury in the french tree does not have these issues. Are they different?
The lighting is just bad. The 9.x BR is just way too compressed
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Challenger 2/2F/TES going up, thats criminal. Should really stay at 11.3
2A5 going to 12.0 is quite questionable.
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So is the ZSU-23-4M2. And yet it’s at 7.3,how curious mh
The M163 is not this overpowered against these types of threats,and frankly an SPAA should excel at its role
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We need more decompression a lot of 12.0 vehicle make no sense
Air RB. F4E. 11.3 > 11.0. The F4E at this BR is terrible as it is forced into 12.0 - 12.3 matches constantly where PD radar equipped planes render it almost useless. The FM can only carry it to a certain point and against planes that are at the same BR or below it, it is very sluggish and unless played with extreme care will always lose in a dogfight. You guys are keeping the J7E at 11.0 so you can see this plane as the counter-weight at the same BR.
KPZ-70 should be moved up to 9.7, whereas the MBT-70 should stay at 9.3.
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M163 is far too good to be facing prop CAS and ww2 jets.
M163 is good where it is at 7.7. If anything the ZSU-23-4M2 need to move up cuz it got better gun and sit at 7.3.
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Ground RB, M113A1 TOW (all versions: China, Italy, Israel). 8.3 > 8.0
At its currect BR, the M113A1 is simply not competitive, as of now it has to be played in one single role and even then it is bad at it. It cannot survive hit, it cannot land a shot first and mostly it cannot even kill things in TWO hits reliably.
IT-1 is 8.7 and I think we can agree that we cannot even compare those two. M113A1 just needs some breathing space, becasue as of now noone bothers to play it.
- one more thing: Israeli M113A1 does not even have a line-up to it
Thanks for considering :)
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That would be too logical.
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Not sure, but superprops has seen some declines recently(allied players wanting to farm ju288s, axis players jumping on the chance), as well as the fact that some planes would not have an energy advantage compared to the SF11 such as Do335s.
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The newest shilka doesn’t have radar
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Vehicle: Ta152C-3
Gamemode: Air RB
BR Change: 6.3 ----> 5.7
Reason:Ta152C-3 is anything but maneuverability. I feel that I may be able to win it in dogfight in a Tu-2S. and Ta152 doe not have good climb rate, it’s not good in energy fight.
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7.3 is not prop BR, it’s late ww2 / early cold war jet BR.
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because its dart is awful and gets its shit kicked in by literally every 9.0 as is.
F-8U absolutely has no business at 10.0, the whole community is in unison saying this and it’s not even included in the first list you publish… Should be 10.3 or even 10.7 with F-8E. 10.3 would be fine if you move F-8E down as well since AIM-9Cs are not game changing enough to justify a BR increase.
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Its sad because the M113 chassis is actually the best of the light tank missile carriers, they completely forgot about another vehicle with even worse stats spaded then the stock M113’s lol
Careful cant give Britain a shell that Germany doesnt have yet!
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Excuse me as I play the world’s smallest violin for one of the most overpowered jets in the game being made into… still a strong jet just not massively overpowered. It deserves bottom of the barrel last resort minimum 9.7 and I’d still like to see it IN ITS CURRENT STATE at 10.0.
yeah doesn’t matter as long as it cant be caught by anything subsonic. all 9.3 supers are massively overpowered in downtiers because that part of the game is MASSIVELY compressed.
You don’t see me advocating for that to stay at its BR do you?
Yes. It is. I won’t humor the silly ass other side of that opinion. It’s a M61 vulcan with a tracking radar firing on WW2 CAS. I’ve both used it and been against it. It goes WITHOUT SAYING that it doesn’t belong there.
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