Do.217 E-4 4.7 → 4.3
The only difference between E-2 is MG FF cannon that is useless due it’s place in the front.
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Vehicle: Harrier Gr1
Gamemode: Air Realistic & Air Sim
BR Change: 9.7 -----> 9.3
Reason: The Harrier Gr1 has no RWR and no CMs. It is extremely vulnerable to any and all attacks, especially by those with All-aspect IR missiles. The “issue” with all Harriers that make them unrealistically hot, means that the Harrier Gr1 has no chance of survival when it encounters one of these aircraft. SRAAM perfromance is also extremely limited at the moment and is one of the weakest IR missiles at that BR. When compared to aircraft even like the Harrier Gr3 which has 2x Aim-9Gs, RWR and 60CMs at the same BR, the Harrier Gr1 looses most of its value. Within sim, you are totally blind to what is going on around you and you are spottable cross map due to the incorrect sooty exhaust, in sim especially, it needs a BR drop
Alternative solution: Fix SRAAM (2km range, all-aspect and fix the buggy TVC at short range)
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True
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Ground RB
SPIKE Armed IFVs: Puma VJTF, KF41, Namer 30, VBM Freccia, Vilkas IFV
10.7/11.0>10.3
SPIKEs are rather mythisized in gameplay, but those who played it would critique its unreliability. All of the SPIKE armed IFVs are lacking in at least one element that makes them competitive with other IFVs at the same BR.
QN506 should stay at 10.0 however, seeing that there are just no redeeming factors of the vehicle.
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GRB, Leopard 2A4. 10.3>10.3. Reasoning: With only weak armor, the 7.8s man-loading speed is completely uncompetitive compared to other MBTs of the same BR, and the mobility is also not competitive with the MTBs of the same BR
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I agree. Sub the F-4B or F-4D (with countermeasures) for the F-4C. As mentioned, it would not require flight or damage model changes… just a new skin.
There is precedent with replacement: the F6F-5 replaced the F6F-3 to add missing A2G capabilities that did not exist on the ‘-3’ model.
The game has evolved past the point where a Phantom without countermeasures but also with low-performance AAMs can be appropriately balanced.
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Ground RB, 2S38. 10.3 > 11.0. The 2S38 its by far the best light tank in the game and IRL its not even a light tank but a spaa. In war thunder it performs better than the HSTVL, CV9040C, LVKV 9040C and other multi role light tanks.
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Ta. 152C-3 6.3 → 6.0
Despite having good armament, it doesn’t have good flight performance even in comparison with Ta.152 H-1, which sits at lower BR
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No, the Shenyang remains a good opponent, and deals better than most 9.0,… flight performing wise every F-86F40(at 9.3) armed with 2x 9B’s are not a match to the shenyang F-5
We have been asking to decompress Top Tier tanks from weak tanks, like arietes, merkavas and challenger (and other 10.0-11.3). But you just moved all toptier tanks by 1 step, which is not solving the issue
Here is how I think it should be
Air
SU-27, J-11A 13.0 > 13.3 - HMD and best SARH missiles
JAS-39A 13.0 > 13.3 - HMD, good FM and 6x RB74(M)
SU-25SM3 12.3 > 12.0
Mirage 2000D-R1 12.3 > 12.0 Has no cannons and SARH missiles, and slightly worse FM than Mirage 2000C-S5
J-7E 11.3 > 11.7
J-7D 11.0 > 11.3
AMX A-1A 11.3 > 11.0
MIG-21(Bis/Bis-Sau/Lazur-M) should stay at their br
F-5A (China) 11.0 > 10.7
Buccaneer S.2B 10.7 > 10.3 Has no cannons, Subsonic and bad FM
F-4F (Early) 10.7 > 10.3 - Has no countermeasures
F8U-2 10.0 > 10.3
F-104C 9.3 > 9.7
AH-64D 12.0 > 11.7
Tanks
CCVL 10.0 > 10.3
Leopard 2AV 10.0 > 10.3
2S25M 10.0 > 10.3
CT-CV 105HP 10.0 > 10.3
AGS 11.0 > 11.3 (Add M900)
Pantsir S-1 11.7 > 12.0
These tanks should stay at their current BR:
T-80(U/UK), T-72(B/B(89)/AV), All Challengers (Except the 10.0/10.3 ones), All Merkavas, All Arietes (except the prototype one), Leopard 2 (2A4M, 2A5, 2A6, PL, 2 PSO), Puma VJTF, KF41, Centauro I (120/RGO),
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The absolute audacity to not fix or decompress naval BRs whatsoever whilst doing minor fixes to DDs and unplayed CLs is absolutely appalling. I get they want to keep Scharnhorst OP to keep Prinz Eugens selling but really gaijin?
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A-10C nicely skipped I see… Is there even a point in suggesting to move it up?
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Radkampfwagen 90 leave it on 9.7, reason: No termo and DM33 only.
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Oh god I’m about to annihilate at 12.7 with the M4K
The F-16A might be worth it now too
Mig-21 - 11.0, MiG-23 - 11.0, F-16 - 12.7
Meanwhile: A-10C - 11.3, Su-25T/Su-39 - 11.7, Su-25SM3 - 12.3
Bruuuuuh… I don’t know what you’re smoking, but give me some.
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This one is recent,… even if we agree, they won’t be doing anything this time.
One vehicle per post.
Please re-check initial post.
Thank you
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and yet again sim is just ignored. :/
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My suggestions for ARB:
- USAF F-16A 12.7 > 12.3 (Carries nothing but fox 2 without IRCCM / AIM-9L)
- Netz 13.0 > 12.3 (Carries nothing but fox 2 without IRCCM / Python 3)
- Mirage 2000D 12.3 > 12.0 (Has no business at the same BR as the 2000C-S5)
- Belgium F-16A 13.3 > 13.0 (Has no business facing fox 3 every match)
- F-20A 12.7 > 12.3 (It doesn’t make sense this is higher br than the 2000C-S5)
- A-10C 11.3 > 12.0 (Does this even need explaining?)
- F-4C 10.7 > 10.0 (Does this even need explaining?)
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Vehicle: Ki-44-II hei
Gamemode: Air RB
BR Change: 3.7 ----> 4.7
Reason: This vehicle has outrageous climb rate, acceleration and superior maneuverability. with last update it’s firepower is decent now.
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