Planned Battle Rating Changes for October 2024

It’s not a “cope buff”, it’s giving the pinnacle of the American tree its historical munition choice so that at least it feels like an actual upgrade in ONE way compared to SEP or A2.

As of now, SEPv2 is identical to SEP, except slower; while SEP is identical to A2, except better thermals.

Sidegrade after sidegrade after sidegrade. Ultimately, leaving aside the cosmetic TUSK II, all SEPv2 differs from A2 is thermals. Ultimately, SEPv2 is identical to SEP. Exact same thing over and over again.

How about an upgrade for once, for a change?

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So can the Leclercs get SHARD rounds then? And honestly, a whole 7mm of additional penetration will not do anything. It’s just giving US mains another thing they can cope with.

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Yeah so can my T-90M get ARENA aps and 3BM59 too then?

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I don’t think that’s a bad idea.

He’s talking about 7mm more pentration than DM53, not M829A2.

I don’t see why they haven’t added 3BM59 yet anyway. People already did the calculations and it would only add 20mm more pen, hardly anything problematic.

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I would rather have the Leclercs get their mobility (should accelerate way faster) and protection (specially UFP) fixed to historical levels, the same way M829A3 would be a historical improvement as well.

Regarding SHARD, maybe for S.XXI and a potentially upcoming XLR, which are the ones that may use it in real life in a foreseeable future.

What are you even rambling about at this point?

This Forum really has a hate circlejerc around America. It’s impossible to bring out any legitimate concern about the Abrams tanks without any of this nonsense being brought up.

Give T-90M 3BM59, fine by me; but if you want to give it ARENA, then give SEPv2 Trophy as well.

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and warrior… had same shells and cannon

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Air RB, Su-7BKL/BMK, should retain current BR, 9.3 → 9.3.
It has no flares and no AAMs, it already suffers facing A-10s due to them having AIM-9Ls. The ground loadout is also bad, no guided bombs or missiles, just plain old unguided FABs and S-24s.
Moving it up to 9.7 will in fact put it up above the MiG-21F-13 and MiG-21 PFM, while actually being worse than them in all aspects.

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This Forum really has a hate circlejerc around America.

Yeah because if your struggling in the M1A2 in 2024 its a skill issue, Roflpen dart with 5s reload with good mobility and survivability…

“Good survivability”…

The Abrams had good survivability back in 2018-2019. It’s 2024, things have changed.


EDIT: you do have some Abrams, missed them, my bad, point still stands.

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Just proven that is not the case, and Abrams is easier to disable or kill.

The difference in pen between darts that pen more than 580mm pen is pretty much non existent though. Every dart that pens more than 580mm usually has to aim for the same weakspots anyway.

I own the Abrams, As long as you dont play like a buffoon you will do great

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if you’re struggling with abrams in 2024 that’s an actual skill issue. and also, “this forum has a hate circle around America”, yet you ignore the constant rambling around stuff like 2S38, which honestly, isnt even THAT overpowered right now, considering you can disable/kill it with 0 effort - unless you are disabled.

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absoltly the worst gift package in 11.7

You cherry picking 2 clips of your bad aim, and the reason why you are still negative in your M1A1 AIM, is hardly considered proof.

As long as you don’t “play like a buffoon” ANY tank you will do great.

There are people who do great on Arietes. Up to 5.1 K/Ds on Ariete, I’ve seen. Does that mean that the Arietes are amazing?

We are talking about objective technical capabilities here, not “muh if you sweat hard you can aktchually do well”.


If you need to sweat with a tank to “do great” while other tanks (like the 2A7s or the 122s) do great on their own while playing them like a headless chicken, there’s a balance issue there.

This isn’t about whether “you can do well or not” on a tank; it’s about HOW EASILY you can do well or not on a tank.

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That is 100% true, but it helps in terms of angles. Here’s a good example:


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