Tf brosky leclerc is Goat, id say it’s upper mid maybe like 4.th best MBT type in game, as for chiense, idk about those newer been interested in them but as Ariete player I can tell you a go cart with 2 50.cals is a better MBT than Ariete
French RB Ground BR’s:
- RB, All Leclerc series: 12.0 to 11.7. One of the worst top tier mbt. Literally worse at everything when compared to a Leopard 2 or Type-90. Shouldn’t be on the same BR
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I have played both the Merkava and the ZTZ and I can safely say that the ceiling of the Merkava is considerably lower than that of the ZTZ, even with this reload buff.
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Vehicle in question: ARB Sea hawk Mk.50
Vehicle changes: 8.0-7.7
Although 2xAIM-9B were not a huge deal, the sea hawks suffer from the problem where most of its foes even at the same BR offers better energy management, as well as basic stats like top speed.
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There is a massive compression problem at 2.7-3.7 imo
There should be no reason why the B1 ter (2.7) and B1 bis (2.3) should be facing M4A1s, and Pz.IV F2s / Pz.IV Gs, SU-122, M4A3 (105) etc…
Same with the SU-122. The armour is very good for 2.7, but it can easily be penned by the M4A1’s M61 shot.
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GRB, Pantsir S1, 11.7>12.7.
Overwhelmingly powerful combat capabilities on its original BR, even top-tier aircraft struggled to compete with it.
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Ariete and Leclerc are literally the same now, what are you on ?
The merkavas has the tendency to die whenever someone sneezes on them. Their buff should be aimed at somewhat improving their armor and highlighting the survivability after being penned.
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Top 4?
If we go with the generally agreed consensus, thats the leclerc behind L2A7V/HU/122, T-80BVM, L2A6/NL, so you mean the leclerc is better than the type 10 which has better stats in evert aspect except armor?
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Which usually come with hefty downsides, especially if we are talking about the T-90M, all these downsides for features that are so easily negated.
An Abrams will always be able to dictate the fight when facing a T-90M due to better mobility/gun depression/reload, so any Abrams player with 2 braincells should be able to win most of those fights.
GRB, 12.0 > 12.7.
Honestly, let’s all be real here; increasing the ground BR to just 12.0, after years of it being stuck at 11.7 (whilst air was recently increased to 13.7) won’t do THAT much to decompress the match-maker. Sure, this KIND OF saved 9.3, but what about BR’s like 8.0, which are absolutely insufferable to play as of right now? 6.7 is also a very mid BR, considering the constant uptiers to 7.7, not to mention the overall lack of 7.7 vehicles across the board - thanks to which, nations like the UK and France absolutely dominate others with their expansive 7.7 lineups. At this point, we’re more likely to get 14.7 air before 12.7 ground. 6.0 is also eh.
I mean, yeah, 12.0 is a step in the right direction, but this only solved the 9.3 issue.
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Type 10’s armour isn’t even that bad tbh. Just as good as the Leclerc’s in most cases.
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Well Leclerc doesn’t have any so that’s not really a surprise
GRB, ZTZ-99A, 12.0>11.3.
With a 7.1-second reload that’s slower than any enemy, unreliable armor, and no clear advantage in mobility. This also happens to WZ-1001(LCT) and VT-4A1, if they need to be in 12.0, the reloading time should reduce to 6.5s
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Ariete doesn’t have any, leclerc has some.
The leclerc has that “IQ check” armored area on its cheeks which are like inpenetrable. Well, its still better than the type 10 on paper, but only against autocannons, something thats lower than a begeleit or 2s38 too.
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bro, two spots on the turret can sometimes stop a round, that’s not armour
It’s some armour lol
Sure, just like a medieval shield in a machinegun fight …
I would say all the attackers need to go back down to their original BR, especially if Gaijin isn’t going to give them their forward spawn. That was the original plan. They go up in BR but get a forward spawn to stay viable. Only one part of that happened. The Su-25/K and A-10 Early/Late should definitely be lowered back.