Planned Battle Rating Changes for October 2024

the MTI mode in mig 23m is really only for looking - should i remind you that japan gets PD radar at 9.7 in its T-2?

Leopard 2A5 - 11.7 there is no reason to put 2A5 on the same BR with 2A7. It’s worse in every single aspect.
STRV122 - give to them thermo at least gen 2 It’s 12.0 man

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Use rockets as makeshift flares my dude

So thier basically r7 equivalents. Lets compare it the the f4ej. The f4ej gets 4 9ps and 4 7es, it doesnt get agile eagle and its radar has no pd. The mig 23 has a better fm (no arguing that against a base f4), it has 4 all aspects which are slightly better than 9ps, It then has 2 radar missiles that are better and worse in some apsects to the 7e. However it still has a pd radar making it usable low down where as the f4ej cant even lock jets bellow 2km (trust me even in acm mode its a chore). The mig 23 still has its benefits and can stay at 11.3 and be comfortable, The r23s may hold it back but not nearly enough for me to say 11.0 worthy.

Air RB, F8U, 10.0->10.3/10.7
Do we…really need to elaberate on this? super sonic, quad 20mm, lots of flares, 4 aim-9D, actually having a good flight model. The closest I can find is F-1 at 10.3 with 4 aim-9P, but remind you F-1 does not have any flares. Just…why? How is it possible that its stats does not stand out that it’s missing from the list? I’m sure others also have touched on this so I’m not going to type a whole paragraph.

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WOW, PD RADAR ON A JET WITH NO RADAR MISSILES… I cant tell if your being genuine or not mate.

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Leave it until I can research it and get AIM-9Deez. Then nerf it.

You agree?

I get that F8U-2 is a bit too low,… but if all MiG-21 bis variants go down,… i don’t see the F8U-2 going 10.7,…

10.3, well i don’t mind seems fair.

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Skill issue? Bro, you got your 2KD with the Magic-1s, I got my 1.8KD with sweaty and skillfull gameplay with the bad guns, bad flight model and bad missiles

Oh great so now the Leclerc is literally THE worst top tier.
Autoloader that doesn’t change anything since now everyone reloads in 5 sec
Worst survivability
Worst round

FFS when is someone going to realise that the Leclerc are 11.3 at best ??

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The arietes and the merkavas are still worse.

In what way ?

you forgot the challys as well, the chally still still has the 6 second reload…

Your FM is superior to the Mirage 5F in everyway possible.

Mirage 5F is the worst DELTA FM wise in all the game.

Guns? We have the same.

Magic-1? I got my stats when the Mirage was 10.3, which makes it fight MiG-23’s R-23T and R-60M,… so can’t escape speed wise, can’t turn Magic-1 their ass thanks to Large caliber flares they had, and can’t survive 5km+ range R-23T missiles.

You’re making yourself a fool if you think that Milan has no way to deal anything at it’s BR of 9.7

You’re a Mach 2 capable fighter able to fight down to 8.7 subsonic no missile and bad acceleration aircrafts. And your only problem is AIM-9L that you found only on A-10A’s which are slow and low.

A-10’s when they come out, were my current farming tool in either Mirage F.1C and Mirage 5F.

But yeah sure… you’ve been sweaty in doing it all wrong.

The turret of the leclerc at leas have some protection compared to the arietes and merkavas and much better mobility

Challys are pretty sad indeed, but still they can do hulldown at least

British RB Ground BR’s:

- RB, A1E1 Independent: 1.3 down to 1.0. Terrible armour for a heavy tank, worse than many nations light tanks even at 1.0. Terrible mobility. Massive target. 3-Pdr gun isn’t a redeeming factor either, it’s not the worst gun in the game, but due to all the other factors combined it’s made much worse.

- RB, SARC IVa: 1.3 down to 1.0. It’s fast, and that’s kinda it. If you compare it to the Daimler it shares a BR with, it loses in almost every respect. Worse armour, no shoulder stabiliser, gun is incredibly bouncy and kicks like a mule after firing, worse gun elevation and depression angles, and it’s open-topped.

- RB, Churchill Mk. I: 3.3 down to 3.0. The 2-Pdr is horrendous at this point, mainly due to the lack of mobility to flank. Even taking it in downtiers it struggles to penetrate Pz. IV F2’s with add-on track armour, Pz. III M’s, M4A1’s, T-34’s, etc.

- RB, Crusader AA Mk II: 4.0 down to 3.7. I don’t understand why this vehicle even went up. Just compare it to the Wirbelwind, far less rate-of-fire, less penetration, and half the guns. The only advantage the Crusader AA Mk. II has is an enclosed turret and more mobility. The 2 were very asymmetrically balanced.

- RB, Churchill Mk. III: 4.0 down to 3.7. Less mobility than the Churchill Mk. I, same hull armour, and worse turret armour (only 3.5 inches compared to 4 inches). The gun is better, but that’s it. It’s also the same gun that’s on the AEC Mk. II at 3.0.

- RB, Churchill NA75: 4.3 down to 4.0. It’s more of a side-grade over the Churchill Mk. III, not a direct upgrade. You lose the good rate-of-fire, lose the shoulder stabiliser, and lose a decent amount of penetration for a better damaging shell. That’s the only difference, the shell is good but if the Churchill Mk. III goes down then the NA75 should as well.

- RB, Comet: 5.3 down to 5.0. It’s really a shadow of its former self. The A30 Challenger is a better vehicle in almost everyway. Just compare it to the VK 3002 (M).

- RB, AC IV: 5.3 down to 5.0. It’s just a better Firefly. Again, just compare it to the VK 3002 (M).

- RB, Skink: 5.3 down to 4.7. Just like the Crusader AA Mk. II really don’t understand why it keeps going up. Again, just compare it to the Wirbelwind, you still have less firepower and penetration but now have the double the guns of the Crusader AA Mk. II, and the same amount of guns as the Whirbelwind. Is that really worth a BR increase of 1.3 currently (4.0 to 5.3)?

- RB, Tortoise: 6.7 down to 6.3. Just compare it to the T28, very similar vehicles except the Tortoise is covered in weakspots, lacks APHE, and just as slow.

- RB, Falcon: 8.3 down to 7.7. Just remove the APDS and/or adjust the belts. There’s now 3 British SPAA’s at 8.3 now, what’s the point? The Falcon has no radar and should be lower. Just compare it to the ZSU-37-2 and the VEAK 40 which have similar shells and radar, yet both are 7.7.

- RB, Chieftain Mk 3: 8.7 down to 8.3. The Chieftain Mk 5 has far better mobility and top speed, and sometime soon will get a LRF. This makes the Chieftain Mk 3 feel more like a heavy tank in comparison but only with decent armour when hull down.

Swedish RB Ground BR’s:

- RB, SAV 20.12.48: 3.7 to 4.0. This vehicle is a monster. Not much else to be said really.

Soviet RB Ground BR’s:

- RB, SU-122: 2.7 to 3.0. This, and the two vehicles below are incredibly powerful. Especially against new players. You see entire squads of SU-122, M4A3 (105), and StuH 42 G when playing these BR’s.

US RB Ground BR’s:

- RB, M4A3 (105): 3.0 to 3.3. Again, low tier monster. Armour might as well be a Jumbo in a 2.0 uptier.

German RB Ground BR’s:

- RB, StuH 42 G: 3.0 to 3.3. Same story as the SU-122 and M4A3 (105).

French RB BR changes:

- RB, AMD.35 (SA35): 1.7 to 1.0. This thing is trash. It’s basically a side-grade to the 1.0 AMD 35.
- RB, M4A3 (105): 3.0 to 3.3. Same reasons as above mentioned SU-122, StuH 42 G, and US M4A3 (105).

Italian RB BR changes:

- RB, M15/42: 2.7 to 2.3. It’s really not a massive jump from the M13/40 (II), M13/40 (III), or M14/41. Very small jump in penetration, small jump in top speed and power-to-weight, and better hull armour. That’s pretty much it.

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Not really, thier biggest weak-spot is thier mantlet. One shot thier and either half your crews gone or your entire crews gone, no in-between.

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