Then lower the F3 Late down to 13.0 as well and then move the FA2 down to 12.7 because it shouldn’t be the same BR as the F4F-ICE
Just because some idiots claim this doesn’t mean it’s true. There are also a lot of idiots claiming that the Abrams isn’t a very capable tank, but that doesn’t make that true either.
But yes, what you showed could have been an easy kill shot with a bit more aim.
FA.2 can be the same BR. Not every vehicle is going to have a giant niche at its BR and its best to not put amraams lower than 13.0 for obvious reasons
Su-25Т/39 - 11.7 - 11.3 ARB
Planes are not played comfortably on BR 11.7 from the word at all. It seems that separate BRS were introduced just to increase the playability of assaults in the ARB, but in the end we have that on the rook with 2 R-73 without HMS and SARH missiles (which, by the way, were installed on them) We are playing against MiG-29 and F-16A with SARH missiles and excellent Flight characteristics, and MiG-21 Bison with P-73 and HMS with SARH missiles. I would like to note that the Su-25T shares 11.7 with the MiG-23, which is compared to the I-15 and La-9, respectively.
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why do these tanks still have to be in the same BR as T80BVM, strv122, and Leo A7? their performance is only worth 11.0. unless gaijin provides them with a reasonable buff.
demonstration:
the slowest loading speed(7.1), the worst shell penetration(577) , have some, but very poor armor.
compared to the T90A/ZTZ99-2/3, their only advantage is mobility. but the defense is worse.
similar to M1A1AIM . but M1A1AIM is superior to them anywhere except for armor. 5-second loading speed, with a penetration of nearly 600mm.now it has also obtained M829A2.
due to not have hull ammunition racks and the presence of four crew members. M1 can often survive even after being penetrated. and 99A/1001/VT4 will immediately die after being penetrated.
they are not worth 12.0 at all, they are only worth 11.0.
but Gaijin was completely unaware of this issue. this is really rotten.
why don’t you put T3476 and Tiger in the same BR?ZTZ99A/WZ1001(E)/VT4A1 11.7->11.3
Reason: Poor protection, slowest reload time, only 577mm shell penetration, just recently, the main armor of the ZTZ99A was weakened by 200KE, and GAIJIN did not come up with any reason. This is not an emotionally charged report, but a fact. Think about it! If you’ve ever played with the tanks of the Chinese faction, you’ll think I’m right.
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why don’t you put T3476 and Tiger in the same BR?ZTZ99A/WZ1001(E)/VT4A1 11.7->11.3
Reason: Poor protection, slowest reload time, only 577mm shell penetration, just recently, the main armor of the ZTZ99A was weakened by 200KE, and GAIJIN did not come up with any reason. This is not an emotionally charged report, but a fact. Think about it! If you’ve ever played with the tanks of the Chinese faction, you’ll think I’m right.
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The M1A1 AIM is still stuck with KE-W, it’s not getting M829A2
Realistic Battles, Leopard 2a4 all nations . 10.7 add DM33 Reasoning: in this br the 120mm cannon with the dm23, is so weak, this source tell the leopard 2a4 can carry the DM33. https://ndiastorage.blob.core.usgovcloudapi.net/ndia/2008/gun_missile/6526Huls.pdf
Leclerc S1 and S2: are now Tier 7 and not 8 and are very inferior to a simple Abrams 1A1 who are 11.0 or a T80U, Type 90 etc… with bugged and no modelised armor Hull and weaker turret than IRL!
Put them to 11.0 please it is so evident no place at 11.7!
; Its so evident
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Yeah but we have a gigantic list of bug reports for chieftains and info on them, mk 4 mk5/4. Mk8. Mk3/8 and ofc the mk11, and the mk900 which was the prototype with what was supposed to be chobham armour…
Which could be 11.3 or 11.7
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Those SPAAs should get higher BR as well, since helicopters get higher BR. It’s impossible for Lynx or A129 to fight against Pantsir S1
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I need to know what you mean by this? which useless pod? Both the datalink pod and the pavespike pod is used for navigation of the weapon systems (aj.168 anti ship missiles and Paveway bombs respectively)
Why isnt the Pantsir S1 going up to 12.0 as well? Its by far the strongest SPAA and completely dominates its tier and decides the outcome of most matches.
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All, Shonan and Chidori Coastal > Bluewater.
I Know This Isn’t A BR Change Request, But Rather Moving These 2 While Yes, Coastal Defense Ships/ Destroyer Escorts, They Effectively Play And Role Like Worse 3.7 Destroyers At The Cost Of Battleship RP’s Which Makes No Sense.
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RB, R2Y (Family), 8.0 => 7.3
Can We Just Say The R2Y’s Have Paid For Their Sins Of The 6.7 Airspawn Days? The Double Nerf Was Too Much Then, And Even Worse Now With ~9.0 Aircraft Being Slowly Decompressed, Compressing Back On 8.0. The R2Y Simply Does Not Compete At 8.0-9.0 Range, It’s Among, If Not The Slowest Aircraft There, The Only Thing It Offers Is Maybe Forward Firepower, But Planes Like The Me 262 C-1a / A-1a/U1 Are Better Platforms With Similar (Or Just Better) Firepower.
Just To Note Some Of The Planes The R2Y Faces:
F-86’s (All), MiG-17 (Most), Hunter F.1…
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RB, F8F-1, 4.7 > 5.0+
Leave It Alone, I Don’t Understand How People Can’t Grasp The Insane Engine Power Some Aircraft Offer, The Fact It’s Lower Than A6M5s (Which Is Already A Crime To Have The Same BR) It Now Faces 3.7…
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Air RB, Mig-27K & Mig-27M, 11.3->10.7/11.0.
Since we have the three Mig-23 with R23 going down to 11.0, there is no reason for Mig-27 to remain at 11.3.
Mig-27 has no radar missiles, and can carry 2 less R-60M than the Mig-23 series. Its flight performance is worse than the Mig-23. It’s an attack aircraft, so having the ability to carry f&f air-to-ground missiles should only have its Ground RB BR, and not be considered when comes to Air RB BR. I mean, that’s the whole point of seperating air and ground BR, no? In other words, no matter how good Mig-27 is at killing tanks, its Air BR should still be considered based on the fact that it’s a modified Mig-23, with no radar missiles.
To sum it up.
Mig-27 (11.3) compared to Mig-23M (11.0):
(-) 2 less ir missiles
(-) no radar missiles
(-) worse flight model
(+) bigger guns
(+) more flares
Therefore it should not be at 11.3 when Mig-23M is going down to 11.0
It should be at 11.0 max, if not 10.7 due to it having less missiles and worse flight model.
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Tbh everything should go up for decompression,…
Its plain as day to anyone with 2, maybe 3 braincells, that the a10c should not be at the br it is at rn. It could go to 12.0 and still perform exactly as it is rn, just without ruining an entire br bracket due to its 9ms. The reason we havent seen as many people complain about it yet is due to it being new and people are still grinding mods for it. When it becomes as numerous as the a10a’s then well have far more people complaining.
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Which is i’m saying,… but we can’t expect +0.7 BR in one time, seeing how low Gaijin put it at first.
The objectives is 12.0, but through 2 or 3 BR update
In order to comfort Gaijin by stats that the A-10C might be 12.0 worthy.