Those SPAAs should get higher BR as well, since helicopters get higher BR. It’s impossible for Lynx or A129 to fight against Pantsir S1
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I need to know what you mean by this? which useless pod? Both the datalink pod and the pavespike pod is used for navigation of the weapon systems (aj.168 anti ship missiles and Paveway bombs respectively)
Why isnt the Pantsir S1 going up to 12.0 as well? Its by far the strongest SPAA and completely dominates its tier and decides the outcome of most matches.
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All, Shonan and Chidori Coastal > Bluewater.
I Know This Isn’t A BR Change Request, But Rather Moving These 2 While Yes, Coastal Defense Ships/ Destroyer Escorts, They Effectively Play And Role Like Worse 3.7 Destroyers At The Cost Of Battleship RP’s Which Makes No Sense.
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RB, R2Y (Family), 8.0 => 7.3
Can We Just Say The R2Y’s Have Paid For Their Sins Of The 6.7 Airspawn Days? The Double Nerf Was Too Much Then, And Even Worse Now With ~9.0 Aircraft Being Slowly Decompressed, Compressing Back On 8.0. The R2Y Simply Does Not Compete At 8.0-9.0 Range, It’s Among, If Not The Slowest Aircraft There, The Only Thing It Offers Is Maybe Forward Firepower, But Planes Like The Me 262 C-1a / A-1a/U1 Are Better Platforms With Similar (Or Just Better) Firepower.
Just To Note Some Of The Planes The R2Y Faces:
F-86’s (All), MiG-17 (Most), Hunter F.1…
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RB, F8F-1, 4.7 > 5.0+
Leave It Alone, I Don’t Understand How People Can’t Grasp The Insane Engine Power Some Aircraft Offer, The Fact It’s Lower Than A6M5s (Which Is Already A Crime To Have The Same BR) It Now Faces 3.7…
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Air RB, Mig-27K & Mig-27M, 11.3->10.7/11.0.
Since we have the three Mig-23 with R23 going down to 11.0, there is no reason for Mig-27 to remain at 11.3.
Mig-27 has no radar missiles, and can carry 2 less R-60M than the Mig-23 series. Its flight performance is worse than the Mig-23. It’s an attack aircraft, so having the ability to carry f&f air-to-ground missiles should only have its Ground RB BR, and not be considered when comes to Air RB BR. I mean, that’s the whole point of seperating air and ground BR, no? In other words, no matter how good Mig-27 is at killing tanks, its Air BR should still be considered based on the fact that it’s a modified Mig-23, with no radar missiles.
To sum it up.
Mig-27 (11.3) compared to Mig-23M (11.0):
(-) 2 less ir missiles
(-) no radar missiles
(-) worse flight model
(+) bigger guns
(+) more flares
Therefore it should not be at 11.3 when Mig-23M is going down to 11.0
It should be at 11.0 max, if not 10.7 due to it having less missiles and worse flight model.
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Tbh everything should go up for decompression,…
Its plain as day to anyone with 2, maybe 3 braincells, that the a10c should not be at the br it is at rn. It could go to 12.0 and still perform exactly as it is rn, just without ruining an entire br bracket due to its 9ms. The reason we havent seen as many people complain about it yet is due to it being new and people are still grinding mods for it. When it becomes as numerous as the a10a’s then well have far more people complaining.
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Which is i’m saying,… but we can’t expect +0.7 BR in one time, seeing how low Gaijin put it at first.
The objectives is 12.0, but through 2 or 3 BR update
In order to comfort Gaijin by stats that the A-10C might be 12.0 worthy.
Air RB, R2Y series, 8.0->7.3
This plane has been sitting at 8.0 even after its bombing sight + bomber spawn gets taken away for years. Its flight performance is close to those of 7.0-7.7 in terms of speed, turn rate, energy retention, and its quad 30mm, and not at 8.0 alongside sabres and mig-15s.
Please, I implore Gaijin to re-evaluate its BR based only on the stats after the bomber spawn got taken away, because that air spawn was a huge advantage, and now it should reflect on its BR.
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it has R-60M, 10.0 is still filled with flareless aircraft. it does not deserve to go down.
radar is not useless, it has MTI mode and range can be extented up to 90km if you fly higher, missiles use CW signal anyway so turning off MTI at higher altitudes in order to extend range isnt an issue
i know… R-23R is pain, it only starts to turn wll into when afterburner already burned out and it would be fair to not move it up should br be decompressed… but otherwise? no.
Skill issue? You have 2 Magic 1s on your Mirage 5F
And it’s sits way higher in BR, so fight way better aircrafts.
Meanwhile you’re faster and more maneuvrable in Milan.
Magic-1 still needs you to fire from rear-aspect.
And not to forget that you start the grind with only AIM-9B’s as the Milan.
So yes skill issue,…
Yeah, no 10.0 should be facing mig 23s. It also shows how much gaijin cares when an f104asa is at 12.0 due to having 4 9ls (or more likely it can carry 2 pd sarh missiles) all while having a worse rwr, fm, less missiles, radar, and the lack of a cannon if you bring the aspides.
Mode RB
vehicle name Type87 RCV
9.0 > 8.7.
Reasoning.
Other BR9.0 Light armor Vehicle has stabilizer or Missile or TVD or All.
But this vehicle doesn’t have all of them.
He has only APFSDS compare with similar vehicle same BR.
Now BR9.0 is too high.
The milan does not need to go down, its a great bomber and a very nice dog fighter. Yes it does face r60ms but like anyone else you should run away from them and keep an eye out.
That’s what i’m saying,… in both comments you came at me with
Bro, the Mirage 5F is at 10.0 with 2 Magic 1s, while the Milan has just 2 Aim-9Bs at 9.7. The Milan might be faster, but it doesnt matter, it will still get hit by Aim-9Ls, Aim-9Js and whatsoever. Speed doesnt matter that much and talking about manouverability, try dodging a 35g missile or outmanouvering ANY other delta wing aircraft. The problem is the flight model of the Milan, which is just bad
maybe no one care about this but… bro, sea vixen at 9.0?
same as french/isaraeli vauturs, i like them but they are in the wrong br right now.