Planned Battle Rating Changes for October 2024

GRB HSTV-L 11.3 >11.3 Not many people use it and overage KD less then one BUT ITs RECON HELPs US TEAM A LOT! Without it US almost blind (u ever play with click-bait?) I really think kiddo deserve to stay at 11.3

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Air RB, F104 asa. 12.0 > 11.3/11.7. It has 4 9ls and a vulcan or 2 9ls + 2 aspides with an mti radar but no vulcan. This gives it hgih lethality against 1 or 2 targets while still facing jets with on par or better missiles and, most of the time, better radars. This basically makes it a yack 38 of its br with its terrible fm but decent missiles. This is why it would suit 11.3 or 11.7 as at these brs it wont face anything without flares or rwr apart from a scarce few, and it would still be at a disadvantage in the bvr due to its own shoddy rwr.

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Also worth mentioning the fact it only has 60 CMs. So its below the average for CM count at that BR as well. Also leaves you fairly vulnerable to Fox-3s, which are also likely your main threat in an uptier.

GRB Stormer AD 10.0 to 9.3. It’s currently the same BR as the LAV-AD without the performance, or ability to mount ground missiles. It is much more comparable to the Machbet (albeit with a rangefinder.)

Also would fill the need for an AD vehicle for the UK between the 8.3 Marksman and the 10.3 Stormer instead of a .3 gap @10.0 where most of the vehicles are already fighting the same opponents.

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Air SB , J11 , 13.3 > 13.0 Reasoning: for the same reason that they are going to 13.0 in realistic matches, the confrontation against aircraft with ARH missiles is extremely complicated in SB mode when you use an aircraft with SARH weapons, giving an extreme disadvantage and unbalance, even reducing the number of players in certain nations because they know that they will only be easily destroyed if they try to play.

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Why lol because I linked the whole thread?

People think the rwrs like the one on the mig21, im not even kidding the rwr tells you if your locked or not. That is it. No direction nothing, only if your being locked, not even sure it has launch detection, although i think it could or should as irl it has maws. But that may be the m variant.

What is TRB?

Yep, thats another big thing to consider for it.

Being an F-104, so should be a decent quick aircraft. Id vote 11.7 and then get some relevant buffs if possible like RWR and MAWS.

Just the idea of trying to evade an F-104ASA in a 10.3 is scary to me.

Lol nonsense T55A can’t get to Tiger 2

I mean, the vulcan with the new fm is basically worthless unless your in a head on, but i prefer sarh over my shit aim. Plus i find them cool so i would pick aspides over vulcan any day. But i can say that i wouldnt mind facing an asa in a 10.3 as i can always flare 9ls. Its a bit daunting but i would be much more scared of a mig 21 sau or j7e than any f104asa. An asa i can just ignore as doging a gun run is possible, a j7e and im basically a dead man already unless im in bis sau with min fuel.

Probabaly meant t54, but tbh anything at 5.7 with a 76mm facing a tiger 2 feels the same way after they made it so 76mm apcr cant frontally pen the mantlet no more.

The only one that will see the T-55 variant is the TIger 2 105 and it can see TO-55, which is technically a T-55 just without the apfsds.

Tiger 2 105 isnt 7.0 anymore, neither is the panther 2… I still want them to bring both back for an event so god damn badly.

RB M1 KVT 10.7> 10.3 This vehicle should not be higher than a Turms. It does not have the armor or pen of anything else at 10.7. If the Leopard 2a4 and its variants are at 10.7, there is no reason for the M1 KVT or similar tanks to be there. They are not even comparable apart from mobility.

I was thinking something more like the Jaguar Gr1A :D

Gotta move the A-10C and F8U-2 up, there’s no way those two are dodging the nerf bat.

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A10C is perfect where it is, any higher and it would get clubbed on its up tier.
The lower br planes that fight it shouldn’t really have an issue if they keep awareness.

Id rather we get either a danish or norwegian f16 im hoping my home countries J35 also known as in our country the F 35/A35XD its a bomber draken with CM’s

Air RB, Ju 388 J. 4.3 > 3.0
This is an event vehicle and was never popular, so after one BR change from 4.7 to 4.3, this aircraft was forgotten. This aircraft needs a drastic reduction in its BR because the BR at which it was introduced was extremely overrated. In short, it is a slightly better Ju 88 C-6, which is at 2.3.

detailed reason (very imported for everyone who has never played this aircraft):

It’s a slow and heavy aircraft with average weapons for its size and low ammo capacity, even compared to light aircraft. The Ju 88 C-6 (2.3) is very similar and suffers from the same issues. Both have downward-angled guns and their rudder is bad for vertical aiming. Just a little maneuvering by the enemy makes it impossible for you to hit them. Compared to the Ju 88 C-6, the Ju 388 J has more engine power and more powerful guns. But the drawbacks are too substantial and are cumulating in a very negative way:

examples
  • Downward-angled guns + low-velocity 30 mm
    Two bad factors that make each other even worse.
  • Downward-angled guns + weak rudder
    It is already harder to aim horizontally. Most players will not engage in a head-on with the Junkers, so you have to try to hit them while they are evading (vertical aiming). Because your rudder is too weak to make quick adjustments, you have to roll your aircraft. Now imagine trying to aim a downward-angled gun while rolling. Hitting an aircraft becomes almost impossible.
  • Low and rare chances of hitting an aircraft + low ammo per gun
    Two conflicting limitations: You have to take every small chance of landing a hit, but you can’t spare the ammo for it.

All that comes on top of the low speed, climbrate, turnrate and rollrate.

All the peculiar limitations of these aircraft and their role in the game as bomber-hunters that can’t hunt bombers due to a way too low airspawn and horrible climb rate still apply. Even with an airspawn, fighters that take off from the airfield will reach bomber height twice as fast! So you are forced to fight the fighters, which can always easily avoid you. Overall, the improvements of the Ju 388 J over the Ju 88 C-6 are small and don’t affect the aircraft’s performance by much.

PS: Don’t get fooled by the stat card of the Ju 388 J:

  1. Two of four 20mm cannons with 400 rounds are “Schräge Musik” (in WT, dead weight).
  2. 612 km/h at 10,600m!!! - the game doesn’t even last long enough to reach that altitude. At lower altitudes, your speed is very similar to that of the Do 217 N or Ju 88 C-6.

Please don’t ignore this post and don’t forget about the existence of these aircraft.

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