Planned Battle Rating changes for January 2024

So AGS goes to 11.0, and gets M833, but M1128 has M900 at 10.0 with 30-40% more pen?

Don’t forget 3rd gen thermals vs 1st gen.

2S25M has even more pen at 10.0…
Light tanks are supposed to have good rounds and bad armour at their br…

For gods sake TAM 2IP has DM33 at 9.0 with more pen than AGS will have at 11.0…

I couldn’t find a single tank with such a bad round at 11.0 or above (except HSTV-L, but we all know it’s overtiered and butchered to the ground…).

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If I may pitch something here

If there is too much of an AA gap for some nations, and there are several AA at the same BR due to AP ammo in belts (clearly lookin at you 8.3 UK) why not remove the APDS in the belt and lower the BR of the vehicle (Falcon) to like 7.7 or something, so it can fill that gap. Same with the Kugelblitz, remove its HVAP and bring it to 6.7 so it actually has a lineup with the other WW2 German vehicles.

I’m sure there are some others this can also apply too, but these are the two I’ve noticed get screwed out of being in needed lineups due to their penetration.

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why is the T20 going to 6.3,and T25 still in 6.3?T20 has no APCR and both of their armor are irrelevant in their tier.I’ve never tried T20but i’m sure the T25 is not so fast enough to have a higher BR than panthers.

Why is the T95 being uptiered? This tank is barely mobile and rarely played.

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P-51D-5, 10 and 20 are used way too much as CAS in both ground and air realistic modes. With bombs it can’t keep up speed and a P-51 without speed is training target. It is not that durable against AA either.
It’s simply wasted potential. Meanwhile Japanese keep skyrocketing in BR because they hardly have bombs to weight down their fighters.

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I’ll keep this part short, thank you for the extended BR range at top tier in air, it’s a good start.

Now I have to comment, why is the A6M5 Ko getting uptiered again? every single Zero has seen nothing but uptiers for the last few years, it’s getting absurd. I know turn fighting produces better statistics in props but having to rely on enemies being daft so that you have a chance of catching them is not fun and at 5.3 you will start seeing superprops that it hasn’t a hope in hell of fighting. I’m sure people will still turnfight them so on the statistics page they’ll seem to be doing ok but it’s extremely unfun.

This isn’t helped by the fact that when a Japanese plane (or indeed any vehicle) gets uptiered when they do deserve it if the uptier was due to an overperforming flight model then when the model is corrected you never move them back down, look at the N1K2 series for example, they were overperforming years ago and now they are only played by enthusiasts and masochists, it’s honestly one of the biggest issues I have with the game in general.

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I both agree and disagree

I agree, because Falcon as an actual SPAA at 7.3/7.7 would be amazing.

I disagree because the Falcon is probably our best Anti-tank vehicle at that BR :D

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My French prem line-up is getting absolutely shafted, like holy shit. 7.7 was hit-or-miss, but now 8.0? Just tell me you don’t even want me to bother grinding France.

Tansem getting a massive uptier for farming Zero IQ Frogfoot spammers while Strela gets to stay cozy?

Bullshit and again, proof of Russian Bias.

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Can you please reconsider about A6M5 Ko to remain at 5.0. At 5.3 when full uptier they’ll get annihilate by 6.3 plane that can outrun A6M5 easily…

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PLEASE for the love of god Lower flarakrad

Currently it is the worst missile aa at top tier and doesnt have the same performance as pantsir

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Adding on to a previous comment of mine.

The amx13 fl11 going up is so dumb. Its gun is absolutely garbage at 4.0 let alone 4.3 so its 100% gonna be dead if it moves up.

AMX-M4 to 7.0? Really? You think that the AMX-M4 is better than the King Tiger? Its not. It gets penned by all 5.7 vehicles in the game and is a massive target.

Soeaking about the Tiger 2. Why is it still not going up? Its more than capable at 7.0 just like the T29 is so either move it up or move the T29 down

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which version you are in? its already 50G

the 50G is only for a few seconds after the booster stops burning
after that its lower

Also the range is much lower than pantsir and also pantsir has guns

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Sagittario 2 should not go up to 9.3, you need to provide a good reason for such move
this thing is not that good to be going vs faster jets

Type 81 (C) Should not just casually jump 1 whole BR, it’s not fair, just bump it up by 0.3
just like you did to the strela, because i would have the strela at 10.0 then and have the type 81 go to 11.0 like you want, you play it very unfair, it would make sense to bump it only by 0.3 and see how it works out fairly

Same for AGS, the way you are handling this is wrong!, you nerf a vehicle and then give it a shell?
are you trying to nerf it because it’s really good or just move it in BR? it makes no sense to nerf a vehicle then give it a better shell then what did you do to begin with?

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I don’t think putting j8f in 12.0 is a good idea. The 6 pl8 does not have enough power to increase its BR. GOOD combat performance is the performance of early, high winning rate players. On the contrary, less frequency of occurrence shows its poorer ability.

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PB4Y and FW200 going down, nice to see

new Sim rotation is looking awesome with the addition of a new highest bracket

many TT planes going up, MiG-29G Staying where it is, also nice to see

Oh boy wouldn’t it be nice to constantly face HEAT-FS and even APFSDS now Somua SM is going to 8.0.? And have fun fighting Soviets from uptiers which you can’t even pen. I guess there will be a lot of sideclimbing needed.

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A6M5 Ko to 5.3 is fine if you move tech tree A6M5 too. they are lighter than more gunned and armored M5s so they should be fine at 5.3, but they should be same br since only difference is 25 more rounds per gun on Ko.

Also where is B-26C change? Its identical plane to B-26B but not on the list.

British P-51 moves up but not identical in game American one.

Me 410 A-1/U4 moves down but identical in game Me 410 B-1/U4 doesn’t.

Pe-3 (e) goes to 2.3 but normal Pe-3 stays 2.0 even though it features same bomb load and 200 more 12.7 ammunition.

Those seem like very obvious mistakes for air.
Also for ground T20 has no place at 6.3 it doesn’t even have apcr. Also AMX-13 FL11 going up is awful maybe its time to stop putting it up and EBR 1951 since they are very outgunned. meanwhile much better also french AMX-13-M24 with stab and same mobility and gun is at 3.7 somehow.

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Gaijin, how about we NOT uptier Japanese fighters ? Every single change, it’s always some Zero that goes higher, and some tier iv fighter.

The J6K has no business at 6.7. It will be fighting jets at that point.

And stop uptiering Zeroes. It is going to be fighting planes that will vastly outperform its advantages

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The Strela should be at 10.3 BR. It is too good to play against 8.7 and 9.0 jets

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Mirage 2000-5F has more CMs and MPRF radar, as well as HMS that you mentioned. So its more than that. Do you seriously think current M2KC > F-14A which can use fox 3s and has 8 missiles?

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