Unstabilized patton without LRF or thermals is 9.0 material according to you?
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Leopard 2A6 with its 10.3 hull that can be penned by 3BM22 is somehow worthy of 12.0 but a fcking* T-90M is 11.7 material?
I would unironically love to see your stats.
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The AGS is perfectly fine at its tier, great line up and sit at a good tier. If you’re moving it up to 11.0 then just giving it M833 shell will not be enough with gen 1 thermos. Considering the amount of up tier and the drastic jump in the performance of MTB armors and rounds pass 10.3, the AGS will need at least M900 to be able to match with similar performance of other tanks at this tier.
I bring the AGS to top tier few time and hard time engaging other MBT at distance giving the bad optics, gen 1 thermo, and no commander sights. Leave it at 10.3 or M833 is not sufficient for 11.0.
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Strela should be 10.3 minimum, moving it up 0.4 br is a joke when it does perfectly fine against 11.0 air targets
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Strela to 10.3 minimum, 2s38 and BMP-2M to 11.3. Its absolutely insane that the 2 clear, uncontested best IFV’s in the entire game sit at 10.0 with other vehicles VASTLY inferior to them
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I object to the french solid shot slingers going up in BR, I think they are fine where they are.
French solid shot currently struggles against soviet heavies and you don’t really have any other option than flanking them. Not only will this be worse, because at 8.0 it will face the incredibly dumb Object 279 which none of them even come close to penning frontally and only a very precise sideshot will do anything to it.
Not even to talk about all the extra stablized dart slingers with thermals they will now face, are you kidding me. These tank will be so high BR they won’t even face Tiger 2’s anymore which closer chronologically than most of high tier stuff.
If these tanks go to 8.0 then the Object 279 must go to 9.3 and they need to receive some sort of buff
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This is exactly the problem. Gaijin looks at stats, almost like they are getting an out of house team to study it for them and working blindly on the moves. No thought whatsoever to the game.
Do they even know that moving the DCA to will only leave the CCKW 353 as cover for 3-4 and they are forgetting the very reason the DCA was even brought in in the first place?
This is the sheer lunacy of which I speak. Glad somebody else sees it too.
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Honestly just give the AGS the M900 round and put it up to 11.3 at this point. It would actually add to the lineups at top tier rather than being limited to M833 at 11.0.
Also the F-15s should 100% move up to 12.7 as well. There’s no reason to keep them lower.
The Strela should also go up to 10.0 or 10.3 if the Type 81 C is going to 11.0.
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So you seriously want to buff what is already pretty much one of the best 10.3s? Lmao sure.
I would personally nominate it as the best 10.3 in game, easily.
It’s already ridiculously strong. No way that it should receive a buff and stay at the same BR.
Some good changes regarding the 8.0 ish BR jets. But we need a complete overhaul from 7.0 to 10.0.
Missile planes ruining the old “top tier” planes such as F86 and MiG 15/17.
Also crazy how a Cl13 mk6 can be the same BR as a MiG19. Something needs changing.
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Agree with all your points.
Realistic Battles
M26 move to 6.3 It should not be at the same BR as Tiger II H, and Panthers are generally better tanks and so should be closer in BR to the Panthers.
T20 Stay 6.0 It has weak armor and gun for its BR
F3H-2 move to 9.0 It is slow for its BR, Its missile armament is weak for its BR, and it’s not particularly maneuverable.
B-29A-BN Move to 7.0 With bomber damage models being weak, and it’s too slow for its current BR.
Tiger II H Move to 7.0 It should have been moved up last time for the same reasons the IS-3 got moved
IS-7 Move to 8.7 It’s way to strong for 8.3 now.
TU-4 Move to 7.7 With bomber damage models being weak, and it’s too slow for its current BR.
J6K1 Stay 6.3 The only thing it has over its opponents is firepower. It is far to slow for 6.7
A6M5 Ko Stay 5.0 It should not be moved up just because people still have not learned to not turn fight a zero
F1 Move to 10.0 Lack of countermeasures.
B7A2 (Homare 23) Move to 4.0 It’s a better B7A2
G.91 R/4 Move to 9.0 It’s better then the G.91 R/2 at the same BR.
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How about showing Type 75 MLRS some love and reduce BR to 6.3 or rework it.
Falcon to 8.3? That has got to be a joke. It hasn’t got a radar and is so incredibly slow after its speed was nerfed when it was put at 8.0. In addition to that that will be 3 8.3s for Britain, just stop it!!
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Panthers are not generally better than the M26. Quite the opposite.
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Devs falling into the trap again of minor nations destroying again.
Take these French changes, but really, in the past with Japan, Britain all of the minors really, its like destroying minors to make new players only pick the main trees. I can only presume the balancing stats model has a major flaw in it with the minors.
Lifting BRs of fairly ordinary tanks to a level of expert players only, then lesser players not playing them, in turn, due to shitty stats with experts only playing, lifting the BRs again, making it to the point that they are so highly BR’s out of normal skill range they become unprofitable for even the extra-expert players.
They then are really a novelty tank played rarely, even then, just by the super expert players, that just keep them at a massively over BR. Joke really.
New players beware, do not play minor nations, definitely don’t by premiums for minor nations as they get over BR’d to make them a useless 50 buck tank.
It is a massive impacts with the full ups at over 90% now…
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The reclassification, would that also include ZSU-57-2 & Wiesel 1A4, being reclassified.
It is not that i would have anything against it, because I personally feel that the ZSU-57-2 is too cheap compared to how effective it is against ground targets.
Both of them are already at 6.3.
I forgot them on my own list, but really, it is incredible how they still are only at 8.7.
One of them is impervious to ATGM because it have a APS system at 8.7…
The other is near impervious to all ammunition except APFSDS and some types of APDS, which not a lot of 8.7 tanks and below have…
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Yeah… no. T20 at 6.3. Strela only gets 9.7 instead of 10.3. 2S38 no changes after daily complaints. France going 8.0… I can understand AGS but it wasn’t that annoying for a rare vehicle at 10.3
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Quick question here.
CN M60A3 TTS has no ERA and only M735 at 9.0 BR.
US M60A3 TTS has ERA and M774 also at 9.0 BR.
Is this a mistake? If it is. Please fix it, thanks.
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I would like to dispute the BR change for the AGS from 10.3 to 11.0 for the M833 which is clearly still worse than the M900 on the M1128 and M1128 Wolfpack but those vehicles are at 10.0 still.
The survivability is also worse with the AGS as rounds that hit it spall a lot more than what it does on the M1128’s.
Give it the M900 if going go up in BR and I would say 10.7 would be max for that extra reload speed only.
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