People arguing here like gaijin listens lol. Anything you all say here doesn’t even matter, they have “statistics”, it’s their god, they won’t change anything
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As you reply to a post about BR changes
By “won’t change anything” i meant they won’t change anything about their approach. You can argue however you like, for example, about french going from 7.7 to 8.0. 1000 posts can be about that, but gaijin will still ignore everything and move it to 8.0 anyways.
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You can’t know wether they have or have not ignored something, or considered something.
They have before.
But “listening to feedback” does not men that all feedback is also implemented jst like that without filter.
I assume they still have their method to determine BR, but use the feedback as additional factor to adjust those BR’s - IF they find the arguments delivered in the feedbacks are valid and in tune with the rest…
There is no skill based matchmaking
Vehicles should not be balanced based on player skill
Simple as
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Because the matchmaking does not directly account for skill per person, it accounts for average skill per vehicle which helps to balance skill differences between the players playing those vehicles while also balancing vehicle differences.
And your source for this is?
Everyone who says that a vehicle br is lower/upper due to some nation having more highly skilled players, so you guys. Yall feedback is my source.
My suggestions for ground.
Suggested changes of vehicles includes in the original sheet:
AGS: Add M900 instead of M833.
Strella: 9.3 > 10.0
Suggested changes of vehicles not included in the original sheet:
M1A2 Sep
M1A2 Sep V2
Leopard 2A7
T80BVM
Challenger 3 TD
Type 10
TKX
WZ1001(E) LCT
ZTZ99A
Leclerc SXXI
Strv 122
Strv 122 PLSS
Strv 122B+
11.7 > 12.0
Explanation:
These top of the line vehicles should go up to decompress a bit. It does not make any sense that Leopard 2A5 and Leopard 2A7 are the exactly same BR, while one is much better than the other. Yes, I’m aware that some of the suggested vehicles requiere tweaking (Such as the Abrams armor, or Leclerc buffs) but this is just a list of the main candidates of what should REALLY be the end of the line vehicles for this nations, not taking in consideration the needed buffs some of these are waiting for.
2S38: 10.0 > 10.3
BMP-2M: 10.0 > 10.3
Explanation:
These vehicles far outperform most of their counterparts. They should be making a lineup with T-80B and not with T-72 TURMS which at the moment is absolutely ruining the experience of 9.0 players in combination. I think 0.3 BR increase is quite generous from my part.
VT-4A1: 11.7 > 11.3
Explanation:
Full downgrade from its 11.7 Chinese colleagues, slower forward, slower reverse, worse gun.
Ariete PSO
C1 Ariete
11.3 > 11.0
Ariete AMV
11.7 > 11.3
Explanation:
AMV in no way is similar to any other 11.7 MBT, should not be such BR only to fulfill Gaijin’s desire to always have a top-of-the-line MBT with the top BR. While the AMV only improves engine performance, I’m willing to accept Gaijin logic to keep it slightly higher than the other Arietes, even though probably they shouldn’t.
OTOMATIC: 11.7 > 11.0
KF41: 10.7 > 10.3
Not much explanation is needed.
Merkava’s (From 3B/C to 4M): Reload speed: 6.7 > 6.0 (Aced values).
Explanation:
According to Gaijin, this reload speed was a balancing factor. Yet, Merkava’s are in dire need of a rebalance by correcting this value as they’re the next worse-performing tanks (as in vehicle performance itself, not player stats) after Ariete.
Leclerc: Reload speed: 6.0 > 5.0
Not much explanation is needed. Proven reload afaik.
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AGS going up by 0.7 BR > gets M833 along its way.
Type 81 going up by a whole BR > gets nothing to compensate … ?
So what happened to the radio wave projectile ? Are you not going to implement it now that it is going up by 1.0 BR ?
Beside is not 11.0 a little bit too high for a vehicle without a radar ? Maybe at least implement a new mechanic to let the Type 81 be spawned with a radar truck that stay inside the spawn point. And as long as this truck is intact you will see the radar scan while play the Type 81, and if this truck is destroyed you will lose the ability to use radar.
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Define average player if 0.5 to 0.6 is average KD for 2S38
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it was way too good at 10.0 it doesnt need to get compensated.
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my suggestions:
Leopard 2A7V, all STRV 122
move to 12.0
reason: spall liners are broken, its almost impossible to kill them in one shot everywhere except the back even with precise aim
T-80BVM
move to 12.0
reason: T-90M but way more mobile, which is a much needed characteristic in top tier
M1A2 SEPV2
move to 12.0, give M829A3, buff hull armor
reason: these should give higher skilled players a better incentive to play USA top tier given the fact that M829A2 does not do well even against USSR 11.3 MBTs’ UFPs.
VT-4A1
move to 11.3
reason: a lot worse than its 11.7 cousins, bad in everything except firepower ig. bigger weakspots, worse mobility.
J-7E
move to 11.3
reason: since 10.0-11.0 is getting bumped up in BR following the decompression action, this should not be left untouched and allowed to clap those getting bumped up below it with its superior PWr and missiles.
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The only BR change i like so far is the Pvkv IV going down to 3.0 but now it is lower BR than Pvkv III which is a worse because of open top but it doesn’t get the APDS round like the Pvkv IV despite using the same gun ?
I don’t see any advantage the Pvkv III has over the Pvkv IV, so it should also going down the same BR and get the APDS shell.
As good as as the Strela and that thing going up only by 0.4 BR .
It’s only good as killing planes but this vehicle is only playable in tank mode which it also have to face with other ground vehicles that the Type 81 is not capable of dealing with !
The 2S6 for instant can deal with air targets using its guns and missiles, it can also defending itself from ground target using its cannons, not to mention the 2S6 also gets radar, and its missiles don’t require lock on so it can hit ground targets if needed, go figure.
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This
and this
I don’t understand… if this happens I highly suggest moving T-28 to 2.3
No Idea whats going on at Gaijin about these BR changes but it’s starting to get nonsense…
So the BatChat, with 200mm pen APHE is on the same level as the Leopard, the American T54E1, a T-54 with a 2 plane stabilizer, and the Obj 906, whose capabilities are equivalent except it gets a stabilizer,. a heat round, and about 20% more penetration for its AP.
I regret my recent purchases. BR balancing needs to be done with regards to the capabilities of the vehicles, then adjusted with empirical data if
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I’m pretty sure they basing their ideas on people performance with certain vehicle… which is nonsense… If let’s say a player is better than average they will get kills with everything even if it’s a bad vehicle… they just look at statistics and decide changes based on that… this is nonsense… Just like the stupid T-34-57 which should fight against Heavy tanks not against light and medium. At 4.7 Germans have zero 4.7 heavy tank… They should face Tigers and the likes…
Britain got the Falcon and ZA-35 which are both extremely powerful.