12.7 ARB being introduced is great, but certain tanks going up is not something I agree with. T-95, AML-90 (with all its variants), Somua SM AMX-50 TO90/930 should not go up. The French tanks already struggle at 7.7 with all the stabs and APFSDS that making them go against 9.0 would just end them. Please, revert the changes for these specific tanks, but keep 12.7.
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trun off your radar
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When will the PVE mode be adjusted? We have so much changes for the br, but still the old PVE rooms
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Does it matter tho? Japan has a line up for neither 10.0 or 10.3, unless you like to constantly uptier your Type 74’s and type 16.
From what I’ve seen the MiG-29As would be much better with R-73s, the issue is that the SMT already exists. Adding the R-73s to the MIG-29As would ultimately lead to the MiG-29SMT being rarely if ever used. Perhaps you could limit loadouts or something like that with the R-73s (Maybe do something similar to the Yak-141 with it’s R-27ERs only being used on the inner pylons?)
@Smin1080p : either Mirage 2000CS5 and CS4 got to 12.0 Or either stands to 11.7
If not 11.7, i hope that 12.0 MIRAGE 2000C’s will see the MAGIC-2 fixed with IRL performances, that several Bug-Reports are talking about (50G at short ranges, and IRCCM real values[MiG-23M bug report have not seen all the values being implemented])
I have nothing else to say About Mirage 4000 or 2000-5F.
I also ask the Super Étendard to be 11.7:
- fix radar (numerical system = more powerful → basic electronics)
- give R.550 and AS.30L
Super étendard at 11.7 ? You mean 10.7 right ?
Nah, 11.7, with both AS.30L and Magic-2
The aircraft ismtself is better than Jaguars (overall)
Can we PLEASE stop this trend of increasing the BR of A6Ms in RB? This is ridiculous. a P-51D-20 can’t even fight an A6M5 Ko with these changes yet they’re fair opponents. The zero has turn radius and turn rate and nothing else. It’s slow, fragile, can be outran by anything, and the sole reason it keeps performing well is because players turn against it. Stop punishing this plane because people don’t know how to fight it. Let them fight it, lose, and learn, because Air RB is headed in a dire direction where players are encouraged to turnfight everything and balanced around that, while neglecting any other form of dogfighting.
The P-51Ds should not be going down, they’re fine where they are, they have been for years and years. This is ridiculous and once again because everyone just turnfights now in the 16v16 Air RB matches. The P-51 can’t keep up with a lot of fighters in a turnfight at lower speeds, hence people who try to turnfight tend to perform worse while neglecting their speed and energy retention advantages.
Especially the P-51D-10. It has more engine power than the D-5 and D-20, there is absolutely no reason to move it down.
I don’t see a reason to move the J6K1 up - it’s rare, very mediocre, and the only thing really going for it is having a lot of guns.
It would be nice to see the F-16As go to 12.3 to follow the increase of the F-16C to 12.7. They are currently the most manoeuvrable top tiers in the game and are extremely capable. The F-14A/B could both increase by 0.3BR as well seeing as the F-14B regularly matches against Phantoms and F-5Es, and will do so even more frequently after the F-5E moves to 11.0.
Why is the F-5E moving up? I’d agree with this if everything around it also increased, but it’ll be at the same BR as the F-4E yet have a quarter of the missiles. It’s manoeuvrable yes, but the 16v16 matchmaker is extremely punishing to it with only 2 missiles.
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Then they should make 2 different vehicle
The one we have in game is a mix between the final version and the early version.
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Either give the ROCAF F-104G 4 x AIM-9P4’s or move it down to 10.3
A6M5 Ko going up yet again is insane, all it does is turn well, it’s going to do that at any BR but it’s getting completely outclassed, it barely does over 450km/h at 5.3, it cannot keep up with anything even at it’s own BR, even larger strike aircraft are faster at this point, don’t even have to talk about an uptier.
A P-51 at 5.0 can easily reach 600 km/h in a straight line… you can catch a 5.3 Zero in a 2.0 P-40.
People who are still managing to get some kills and do well in an overtiered aircraft should not be punished by getting it even more overtiered slow plane that catches fire faster than a pool of gasoline, limited ammo supply and lackluster damage.
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Added it under the italian f104g :3
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Why is the SMT going up while the german Mig-29G is staying at the same BR?
The only diffrence is that the G has better flight performance, and the SMT a better radar, which doesnt justfiy it going up, since the ERs lose their effectives long before the radar makes a diffrence at all
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cant wait to face vehicles with thermals, stabilizer and apfsds with the somua and amx-50, its going to be a very cool and funny experience trust me
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? AIM-9P4 are basic 9L,…
If it got P4 it should be 11.7(11.3 at best)
IMO the 29A should be restricted from using the E series of R27s, but give them the R73 and move them up
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Alright as someone who has the whole French TT researched and spaded (yes Ground/Air/Heli/Blue water) , I’m going to comment on those change for the French vehicles and propose some.
Starting with Ground :
AMX-13 (FL11) : 4.3 , It’s a worse M24 Chaffee due to having no stabliser , no roof mg , worse reverse speed , while having a barely better HP/T , it should sit at the same BR as the M24.
AMX-13 DCA 40 : 5.0 ,Fair , the buff to turret rotation and having a more than decent AP shell mean it’s probably paying the price of being good at ambushing and locking down corner.
TPK 6.41 : 5.7 , Probably a little too good at doing it’s job as SPAA for it’s BR , understandble.
AMX-10P : 5.7 , it’s going up while the SUB-I-II who stay at 5.3 is pretty much the same trading protection from small caliber mg (and 1 more crew) for higher elevation.
AMX M4 : 7.0 , most likely paid the price for it’s combination of good mobility/firepower/reload speed since those 90mm shell change.
AML-90 : 7.7 , the AMX-13-90 is flat out better in everything but top speed and “stealthiness” it shouldn’t go up.
Char 25t : 8.0 , same BR as Object 906 who get a full stabiliser , similar reload rate , better aphe , heat-fs but worse turret rotation speed and not being able to survive .50cal , yeah no gaijin , keep it at 7.7.Also it could face Object 279 , good luck with that.
AMX-50 (TO90/930) : 8.0 , similar situation as Char 25t but it’s not a light tank so doesn’t get scouting.
E.B.R. (1963) : 8.0 , again similar situation to Char 25T but instead only use heat-fs and have worse reload than Object 906.
Air :
PB4Y-2 (France) : 5.0 , don’t really play bomber so I can’t really comment , I guess it’s really low speed was making it impossible to reach base?
Mirage 2000C-S5 : 12.0 , are we going to see the MAW on it , if not , no don’t uptier it since M2K-S4 is the same FM with just a bit less CM.
Mirage 2000-5F : 12.3 , guess HMD is the reason it’s going up and the future MICA?
Mirage 4000 : 12.7 , no HMD , not great post mach 1 acceleration , worse avionics than M2K-5F , and having to rely on Magic 2 which are starting to show their limitation due to their lackluster range for that BR and arming time (also somehow F-15 is staying at 12.3?)
Helicopters :
Nothing to say.
Bluewater Fleet :
Lorraine : 6.3 , this thing is a Paris with very slightly better gun but it’s completely outmatched by it’s peer at 6.7 either by armor/gun or both , combined with it’s poor firing arc , this thing should go down in BR.
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Otomatic needs some love gaijin… why that thing is 11.3? drop to 11.0 and maybe the first ariete too, them italy could have a decent ground line-up
it make sense if you want to nerf them, and it’s what gaijin want it look like.