Planned Battle Rating changes for January 2024

I think the Mirage2000-CS5 should either stay at 11.7, or the Mirage2000-CS4 should be raised to 12.0 as well. (at least for the SB BR)

Keeping a limited edition event vehicle (the CS4, which is essentially the same as the CS5) at 11.7 will start an unattainable meta in SB matches now that 11.7 is fully downtiered 3 out of 4 rotations.

I’m fine with 11.7 being meta, but don’t limit it to an event vehicle people can no longer get, there are already very few nations with a solid 11.7 jet.

(F14a and M2K-CS4 will be insanely meta in SB now)

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This is a 5.0 heavy bomber, an Me 264, able to travel at 475km/h

This is a soon to be 5.3 fighter plane, an A6M5 Ko, able to travel at 475km/h

How exactly are you moving up a plane that struggles to even catch long range bombers at it’s BR?

It’s bad enough trying to fight a 335, Fw, 109s, P-51s, La’s, Yaks at the same or lower BR as it is, and you want it to go all the way to 6.3 fighting early jets? Things that are 300km/h faster?

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BRs are just super compressed. They decrompresed late WW2 BRs to appease players but few months later and Gaijin algorithm tells them that vehicles are too effective and now everything shifts back to the old BRs.

If you look at 6.0-8.0 you’ll see that a lot of vehicles share the same BR despite some being vastly better. 8.0 alone is just bonkers with previously lower BR vehicles sharing the same spot with superior vehicles that used to have a higher BR.

The BR system is just bad. Create some MM tiers like SIM and adjust RP and SL modifiers based on efficency.
Play the most OP vehicle? Well, you earn very little unless you get enough kills.
Play underdog and get rewarded for actually doing well.

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Hell no. It has a stab, very good guns/ammo, and good speed/maneuverability. Even without apds it should go up as yes it is a menace. Pure skill issue you can’t kill planes with the falcon.

The 7.7 lineup is suffering from BR compression, as it clubs downtiers and is food in uptiers. Performance in uptiers is never considered as much as performance in downtiers. People cry about some vehicles dominating downtiers but have no idea about its uptier suffering. Even in air RB, vehicles like the Vautour II N late get to face 7.3, while being faster than everything and being armed with superior weapons. However, in uptiers to 9.3 the Vautour’s top speed is no longer enough, and with the poor turn rate leaves it to just get eaten alive by F-104 and the like. Insead of uptiering things like this lineup, reducing a match’s max BR spread to ±0.7 would be a fine quick fix to help alleviate some of this compression issue.

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Yak 9U needs to be a 5.0 has a good climb rate good guns and good speed and can keep its energy

Lancaster B Mk1 and Mk 3 need to be moved down…you moved the B17’s and the Yer bombers but these still say where they are… -_- I would say move the Pe-8 to 5.0 as it can blow a whole base away with its bomb

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You’re exactly right. And 7.7 France isn’t the only line-up that clubs in down-tiers. Any objectively ‘good’ line-up will club in a down-tier, yet somehow France is the focus. Nerfing this line-up into the ground doesn’t balance anything, it just builds resentment in French players, and for the most part will take the joy out of playing the nation for a lot of players.

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Currently, nothing stands a chance vs them in ground and in air they can really be a menace.

Missing HMD certainly isnt a good thing, but IMO its too powerful to be at the same BR as the 5F.

Not to mention it has to be an oversight to let the F15 stay (i dont get how they miss this). Its one of the best airframes in this game at top tier, with a decent missile kit (not the best ofc, but its totally fine).

Not to mention they didnt move the 12.0 F16A and mig29 variants up to 12.3 for some reason. A F16A is more dangerous then a M2K 5F.
Not to mention they moved the Mig29SMT up in BR, yet the better version that is the Mig29G stayed. Its clearly not a finished list (atleast it better not be)

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France is the focus because it’s an insanely powerful lineup without competition because everything else got moved up.

AGS should receive m900 and be bumped further to 11.3 or 11.7.
As for French tanks these changes are awful. Frencyh 7.7 tanks already struggled when facing t-55/54 or other russian heavies. Obj 906 sits at 8.0 while being better in most aspects compared to Somua, AMX-50 or Char 25, not to mention EBR1963. Now they will have to compete with fully stabilised tanks firing DM-23.

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Okay lets roll it up,

in top-tier those ways of play style (BnZ etc) don’t work out.
In top-tier fly play passively, fly low, stay out of the fur ball, pick up unaware targets - you don’t dogfight or play on high altitude (it can work but not in an avg game)

yes it is, it performs very good, you have a lot of flares, you have 4 9Ms, you have 4 radar missiles which are not R-27ER level but are still good enough and the biggest point.
it has the second-best flight model in the game, after the gripen.



only thing I see is, that you are an average player. Those stats are not good, neither you are but that’s okay but:

not being that good =/= the plane is not good

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Strela only 9.7? Seriously?

I mean the leclercs are better, but they are discussed more because France doesnt have the best wheeled tank in the game(best by a huge margin), and one of the best wheeled IFV to be an alternative

Might as well give it thermals, put it in at 10.0, and rename it to Strela-10M3(which I do think have a thermal)

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by the gods, BUFF the armor of the Merkava tank! It is very annoying that you are easily destroyed when you face Germany and the Leopard tanks that fire the DM53 model cannon, especially when it hits the upper armor of the Merkava tank, you have no chance, I emphasize, no chance to face the Leopard tank if you have a Merkava tank because with one shot from the Leopard tank to the upper armor of the Merkava, all the tank crew are gone. It is very ridiculous and illogical that there is no effect of bending the bullet to the upper armor of the Merkava! Compare the armor around the barrel of the Leopard with the Merkava! You are gone with one shot to any part of the upper armor of the Merkava, while the armor around the barrel of the Leopard has high resistance and the ability to bend your shot to this part, while the design of the upper armor of the Merkava has the probability of bending the shot due to the special shape it has.
by the gods, BUFF the armor of the Merkava tank! It is very annoying that you are easily destroyed when you face Germany and the Leopard tanks that fire the DM53 model cannon, especially when it hits the upper armor of the Merkava tank, you have no chance, I emphasize, no chance to face the Leopard tank if you have a Merkava tank because with one shot from the Leopard tank to the upper armor of the Merkava, all the tank crew are gone. It is very ridiculous and illogical that there is no effect of bending the bullet to the upper armor of the Merkava! Compare the armor around the barrel of the Leopard with the Merkava! You are gone with one shot to any part of the upper armor of the Merkava, while the armor around the barrel of the Leopard has high resistance and the ability to bend your shot to this part, while the design of the upper armor of the Merkava has the probability of bending the shot due to the special shape it has.

If the information about the specifications of a tank is confidential, should the development team design a tank that is stronger than the others? If it is confidential, there should at least be a balance between the specifications of the tanks. The Merkava 4M tank, which everyone knows is a modern tank, definitely does not have weak armor! If you do not have accurate information about the armor specifications of a tank, at least do not ignore the other features that are logical, like the one I mentioned. According to the turret armor design of the Merkava 4, it should have the ability to deflect bullets or at least reduce the power of the bullet penetrating into the armor and cause less damage to the tank crew! and the last thing thats not logical to me and beyond the philosophy of putting engine in that suppose to add more armor but IT DIDNT DO ITS JOB. PLZ RESPECT TO OUR PASSION ABOUT OUR BELOVED GAME. GAME IS TOOL TO CALM US DOWN AND HAVE FUN TIME NOT JUST SCREAM AND YELLING AT NONSENSE GAMEPLAY OR MECHANICS IN GAME! PLZ RESPECT US

Definitely, either move up CS4 to 12.0, or lower CS5 to 11.7 as well. With the new BR brackets in sim, 11.7 is becoming the new meta and we can’t have the best jet at 11.7 (along with F14) be an unattainable event vehicle. It’s also super unfair to the French mains who grinded the CS5, and hence avoided the CS4 event vehicle since they were essentially identical

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Gotta move strela to 10.0 or more.

I think Gaijin has this regular purge in BR and it seems that the player base who are getting tired across the board with BR, Map Making, Map rotation and maybe CAS issues are finally saying “Hang on lets challenge this habit of shifting BR and destroying line ups and vehicle effectiveness.”

Does it matter in game play terms if an old vehicle is 4.3,4.7 or 5BR ? When moving it matters so much in regard to line ups and the ability to even field one in some nations?

Are some players rebelling against the same ol same ol every time. Another Line up destroyed and another nation unplayable.

Just stop doing it unless a vehicle is recent and genuinely out of place.

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Even at 10.0 it is still extremely competitive. There is no logic behind increasing the Type 81 by 1.0, but only increasing the Strela by .4. Both of these were equally as overpowered for their associated BR, arguably the Strela being more overpowered in it’s associated BR because of the lack of aircraft with flares