Ground RB, Su-7BMK, 9.3 → 9.0 - this plane has no smart munitions at all. It does not even has bomb CCRP/CCIP. Relies only on 500kg dumb FABS and S-24s. Basically same reasons as the Su-7B and BKL.
Vehicle: Jaguar Gr1A/Jaguar A
Gamemode: Air Realistic and Air Simulator
BR Change: 10.7 —> 10.3
Reason: These aircraft have long since struggled at their current BR given their overall limited performance and the strength of many others at the same BR but have just barely managed to scrape by but I was on the fence about whether they needed a BR drop. With many other aircraft getting a BR drop with a similar performance (like the Mig-21s and especially the AJ37) or Similar role (like teh Su-17/Su-22s) the Jaguars also need a BR drop down to 10.3. All of those at 10.7 being moved to 10.3 in this update are equal or superior to the Jaguar GR1A/Jaguar A already and so the Jaguar needs to move down as well.
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Well it’s because an F-14A, no matter if it has fakours, shouldn’t be 13.0 in this state. It’s as simple as that. If it were for the greater good, then the IRIAF needs buffs. I think you agree, right?
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Yeah, just like the Zero wins a dogfight a 100% of the time, yet it wins 0% of the fights against anyone who doesn’t dogfight it because they have a 300km/h speed advantage where even in a dive the Zero cannot catch them… yet now it sits at 5.3 with the same speed as a heavy bomber at 5.3.
Having played the Ariete, there has not been a single plane I could catch up with.
greater good = I am ok with 1 jet being unplayable if it means the rest of them gain a great deal of fun/enjoyment from the 1 jet being gotten rid of, this is a compromise I’d rather not take because ultimately I’d rather gaijin extract their cranium from their rectum and learn how to balance the game, ie decompress.
literal fully vietnam war era plane (F-14A served in Vietnam) (except for AIM-F90) vs 2003 4.5gens
Vehicle: BI
Gamemode: Air and Ground Realistic
BR Change: 6.7 → 7.3
Reason: At 6.7 is well known that BI is overperforming everything it faces, while me163 is at 8.0 BI could be at 7.3 .
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Where is the airspawn for the all aspects slingers around 10 / 11.0 in ARB? What I see now is a re compression because of the lack of this airspawn which makes most OK fighters around this area get trapped by those missiles. Move them up where they belong, hunting for ground targets and early fighters on the middle of the map, and leave the fighters alone. This is exactly what happens at low tiers and it works fine
See, here’s the thing! The Ariete also has one of the highest top speeds, T/W ratios, acceleration curves, etc of any subsonic! It’s ALSO one of the fastest ones and it DOES maintain its energy the best out of just about any of them! It’s almost like it’s a zero that DOESN’T have speed problems! (It just can’t catch SUPERSONIC jets!)
Am I coming through to you clearly?!!?
None of the faster planes can dogfight it
Why would a faster plane dogfight it? How is that an argument? It doesn’t need to dogfight because it’s faster, probably has missiles as well as more ammo.
Also it can deal with A-10 and SU-25 just fine in a 1v1 situation, go watch defyn play.
Oh sure ‘’ Defyn’’ a quick google search and the first result is ‘’ Scorecard of Defyn, this guy have a mad K/D ratio… Must be the best air RB pilot in the game IMO’'.
Well I guess the plane must be fine if the best player in the game is able to use it, sound logic.
As usual, gaijin overpromised and didn’t deliver on this front.
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Ayit
Mode: Air Realistic
9.3 > 9.7
This aircraft outclimbs and out-accelerates almost anything it faces from 10.0 down. It has 4 best-in-class missiles comparable or better than any aircraft it faces from 10.3 down (besides premium attackers with all-aspect missiles).
9.7 would be a much more fair placement.
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All I want to see is the IRIAF with 6x Fakours and added R-73s. It can stay 13.0 then.
Will like in 20 minutes when I get more likes. But big yes. Its easily better than most 9.7s
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F16A going down in ARB. How about the french / belgian one? AIM 9M over 9L doesn’t grant a 0.7BR change
If it can carry 6x fakour there is no reason it shouldn’t have that, R-73 to my knowledge is extremely fake, as are the R-27s already on it
MiG-17PF and Lim-5P
Mode: Air Realistic
8.7 > 9.0
The afterburner allows these aircraft to perform much better than the base MiG-17. The performance is significantly better than the 8.7 Sabres. 9.0 is a much more fair placement.
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it sure as hell does! not that I agree with the F-16A downtier but acting like 9Ms aren’t worlds better than 9Ls is ignorance speaking
The Su-7s struggles against subsonics as well. Considering that you have planes like the F3H-2, F9F-8, A-4’s, FJ-4s,G91 R/4, Swift F.7,Scimitar Mk.1, F-86F-40,G.91YS, F-86K, IAR-93B, Mysterie B2, J29 and several more with AAMs at 8.3-9.3 BR range that also have better flight performance, i wouldnt be worried about them performing poorly against the Su-7. Have you tried flying the Su-7 variants?
Netz in ARB 12.7 → 12.3a.
It should go down as the hormal f16a to 12.7 because it only hast 6 phyton 3 which are not a whole lot better than the 9ls from the regular F16 and in the Radar meta it’s very hard to get Kills at all because everyone dies to Radar missiles from tens of kiloneters
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