Planned Battle Rating Changes for February 2025

Air Realistic Battles, Yak-3 (all). 4.3 (4.0) → 4.7 (4.7)

Standard Yak-3 is too good for their BR. They are better than all other aircrafts they face in every aspect, except dive speed. I am including the premium Eremin’s Yak-3(e) in this list too as the removal of 1 UB machine gun can not justify the difference in the BR with the regular tech tree version.

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Vehicle - OTOMATIC
Mode - Ground Battles
BR - 11.3 > 10.7
Reasoning: The OTOMATIC is severely underperforming at it’s BR because it simply cannot shoot down the current CAS planes it meets at and around it’s BR. Even in real life it only had an effective range of around 4km, which FAR exceeds the effective range of any strike aircraft over 10.7. Comparing the OTOMATIC to the 2S38 which is believed to take on the same role IRL, it lacks radar, but has a huge magazine (whereas the OTOMATIC can only shoot 29 rounds before having to reload), unlimited anti-armor ammunition (OTOMATIC has only 12 APFSDS shells available), better thermals, better mobility, much smaller size, laser warning system and the benefits of a light tank (Scouting and UAV).

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Could you ever find that photo of the tomcat with R-73?

Air realistic, Fw 190 A-5 (Japan), 4.7>4.3 . Reason German Fw 190 A-5 is moving down so this one should too probably. Wish every time u post a change you check what other versions of vehicles could be also moved based on their characteristics would save people time posting and you time reading.

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F-14 IRIAF: The Sniper in a Knife Fight
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You’re flying a Cold War legend in a lobby full of UFOs (looking at you, Gripen an typhoon and rafale). Those Phoenix missiles? They’re like firing spears in a gunfight—awesome at range, but the second someone closes in, you’re sweating. Hot engines? You’re basically a flareless Thanksgiving turkey for IR missiles. And 20G Fox 3s? Against jets pulling 15G+ turns? It’s like trying to hit a squirrel with a slingshot.
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The Mirage 2000-C5: The Speed Demon with an Identity Crisis
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1500kh speed at 12.3 is really impressive but it rip at that speed so meh you’ve got Magic IIs in a world of Python 3s and R-73s. Your Super 530Ds? Great… r27 and aim7 are meta there if the enemy doesn’t know what the notch key is im dead. And that radar? It’s like trying to catch smoke with a butterfly net

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Yep, the compression is really bad, but York is notably weak imo.

Is has 68 pen sap which is found on 2.7 spaa so not really a good comparison

I agree with most of this but OTOMATIC doesn’t have lower mobility than 2S38.

No good. Literally whoever approved the changes is clueless.
Correct changes should start with Air top BR going 15.0 and start from there.
It’s like you can’t see that downtiering F-4C (for example) that doesn’t have CMs and downtiering every all-aspect crap as well, you don’t save it. You’ll just make F-4C destroy ANY downtier it gets involved though…
It may seems statistical balance , but allow me the words, it’s actual bols–ks.
Get the god damn thing , top BR 15.0 and start from there. There is no other ^correct^ solution…

Even though the TCM AGS is rare
AGS 11.3>10.7 because it doesnt have access to M900
If it has M900 then no change to br

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Ah yes, the R-27

PZH2000 at least 8.0, No idea why put these monster laser rangfinder at such a low BR

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Air AB, French F-100D. 9.7 > 9.3 : like the american one which is better thanks to its Aim9E and is 9.3 since years!

Sidenote : same situation for the chinese F-100A.

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Air AB, French F-84F. 9.0 > 8.7 : like the israeli and german ones which are identical. Terrible flight performance for a 9.0 aircraft. This inconsistency is in the game since these vehicles were added!

Sidenote : same situation for the american and italian F-84F.

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For Realistic Battles

2S38
From 10.3 to 11.0
Should I say anything in addition to what others have already said? :p

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Mode :arcade
Tank :R3
Change : 4.7 → 5.0 not 5.7

Reason : since it’s arcade the enemy can spot tough wall and other structures. As such there isn’t a place at 5.7 arcade for it since flanking isn’t really a thing in arcade. The R3 shouldn’t be moved past 5.0 with current R3 capabilities

ARB
TU-4
7.7 > 7.0 ( or 6.0 )

0.3 is not enough, There is no reason this bomber should even be this high considering you refuse to update the bomber damage models and update bomber gameplay. They can no longer end the game and at 7.7-8.0 it gets constantly tortured by jets. Even 6.0 would be sufficient. I’d like to reiterate, because of the terrible damage model on bombers, breaking apart after a single bullet, this one is notoriously over tiered and playing one is equivalent to pulling fingernails. And no, a TU-4 at 7.0/6.0 would not dominate the sky.

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For Realistic Battles

Lvkv 42
The only value of this vehicle is not in its anti-aircraft capabilities, but in its anti-tank capabilities, as it carries a very small amount of ammunition (104 rounds) and is easily destroyed due to its thin armor and open top. If its BR should be increased, then it should have ammunition for the historic L/70; this vehicle is equipped with the L/70 gun, but now uses ammunition for the L/60.

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(General feedback, I’m aware of the one vehicle per comment rule, I will make separate comments)

Rafale, SU-34, EF Typhoon, and F-15E still at 12.7 in GRB is disappointing. They should be 13.0 so they can’t face the poor and innocent 11.7 lineups.

Israeli Chaparral 10.0>9.7

Tornado F.3 Late 13.3>13.0

F-16A 12.7>12.3

F-14A IRIAF 12.7>13.0

Mirage 2000C-S5 12.3>12.7

AJ37 10.7>10.3

Long overdue changes.

Su-25BM 11.3>11.0

IRCCM missiles at 11.0 is wrong. A Su-25BM with 2 R-73, 2 R-60M + a cannon being just 0.3 above something like Buccaneer S.2B (2 AIM-9L and no cannon) is even more wrong. I feel like it’s going down only because the Su-25T and Su-39 are going down.

I disagree with the J35 and MIG-21 compression. They were fine where they were. The problem is that they shouldn’t have had the same BR as the J-7D and the solution to that problem is to increase the J-7D to 11.0, not decrease the J35s and MIG-21s.

Vautour IIA IDF/AF 9.0>8.7
S.O.4050 Vautour IIA 9.0>8.7
S.O.4050 Vautour IIN 9.0>8.7
S.O.4050 Vautour IIB 9.0>8.7
Vautour IIN (Israel) 9.0>8.7
Vautour IIA (Israel) 9.0>8.7

Good changes, but why only in GRB? They desperately need to be lowered in ARB too.

F-111C: GBU-15 and additional pylons for the AIM-9 have been added.

Great, but it is still worse than the F-111F at the same BR and it’s crazy that they have the same BR in GRB despite lacking AGM-65s, AGM-130A-12s and GBU-15(V)2/Bs, not to mention that it’s heavier and has less thrust.

SA.342M Gazelle 9.3>9.7

Okay, this is the dumbest change of them all. A utility helicopter with just 4 HOT-2 TOW missiles, or 3 with 2 Mistrals, at 9.7? Same BR as the AH-1F which has a 20 mm cannon, 8 BGM-71D TOW-2 missiles and 38 Hydra-70 M247 rockets with CCIP, armour, IRCM, LWS, and RWR???

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For Realistic Battles

Lvrbv 701
From 9.7 to 9.3
No search radar, no NVD, 17G, 7km, 1.44kg TNTe, -5˚/35˚, 6 rounds of ammo… doesn’t seem as good as the French Roland with the same BR.

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