not really, the Su-25 is a boat and a highly uncompetitive airframe at that BR, we also have the Jaguar IS at 11.3 with IRCCM missiles and a better airframe (and IMO and Arguably) better Missiles, while also being a lot colder in the engine department, it’s only really moving it on par with the Jag IS at best
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Exactly my point, they need to stay where they are at.
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Id say the FC is worse, only 4 missiles vs 8
remove the 9L, replace with 9G or 9J, and balance accordingly
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The F104J has two more AIM-9J missiles compared to the Chinese F104G, and neither has flares. However, the latter has a 0.4 higher BR. Clearly, Gaijin considers 4 to be greater than 6, and I don’t understand why Gaijin hasn’t noticed this issue yet.
The BR of the J35A has been reduced to 9.3, so what about the J32B? J32B have the same BR but worse performance.
Lowering the BR for the Mig21MF and SMT is not very appropriate. They are indeed relatively worse than the J7D at the same BR, but that’s because the J7D’s BR is set too low. They are still on par with the Mirage 3E and F-8E, both at BR 10.7.
I admit that the Atlanta is very strong against destroyers at BR 5.0, but increasing its BR to 5.7 means it suddenly goes from being an excellent light cruiser to a terrible ship. Gaijin should come up with a better way to balance this.
The Mirage 2000CS5, Mirage 2000CS4, and Mirage 2000D are now at the same BR. Instead of lowering the BR for the two Mirage 2000Ds, which have a helmet-mounted sight but lack an internal cannon, Gaijin chose to increase Mirage 2000CS5 to BR 12.7.
The Su-25SM3 doesn’t perform better than the Su-25T and Su-39 in air combat, and it now shares the same ARB BR with the Su-25T, yet the weight of the Su-25SM3 hasn’t been reduced.
The Gazelle M lacks RWR and has significantly weaker ground attack capabilities compared to the BR 9.7 AH-1F/S and Mi-24V/P, so increasing its BR is clearly unreasonable. Moreover, the MD500, which also lacks RWR and uses a light helicopter platform, has a BR of only 9.0. The difference between the HOT2 and TOW2 is clearly not enough to justify a 0.7 BR difference.The BO105, also at BR 9.3, has 6 HOT-2 missiles and is equipped with RWR, but lacks flares. It clearly has its own advantages compared to the Gazelle M. Therefore, it is reasonable for these two helicopters to maintain the same BR.
The UH-1D has 6 SS11s, and the UH-1B has 6 TOWs, yet they share the same BR as the Alouette, which only has 4 SS11s, which is clearly unreasonable.
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Ground RB, AMX-13(HOT), 8.3➡7.0 . HOT missiles are useless due to the change in missile behavior. It is impossible to hit missiles at close range and must expose itself at long range. This is no different operationally than the 6.7 AMX-13. It should be 6.7, but I think it should be 7.0, considering the added value of HOT missiles. It is more difficult to use than AMX-10M.
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The better solution would be to add a 12.3-13.3 bracket, as moving them down would render 13.0 unplayable for a lot of aircraft and most if not all 13.3s suffer in the same way and you cant move some down and not others
Awesome, I never post on the forum, but I wanted to salute this genius move…honestly, to do that, don’t do anything. You have no idea what’s going on in your game.
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9040bill 10.3-10.7 Realistic Battles
Repair missile launcher and add m/01
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Air Realistic, J-11A. 13.7 → 13.3. The plane is worse than Su-27SM at the same BR in every way. It has worse engines, heavier weight, 2 less missiles, atrocious RWR for it’s BR.
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G8N1
Ground RB 6.0 → 5.7
Air RB 6.3 → 5.7
This old bird has extremely low durability and payload is rather ineffective considering it’s BR. Turrets aren’t that deadly since the whole plane collapses like B-29. Speaking of…
B-29
Ground RB 7.0 → 6.3
Air RB 7.0 → 6.3
Goes up in flames like mothball. Snaps in half from a single sneeze. Like G8N1 it could stay in it’s BR if the HP of the structure of the plane would receive a significant buff. If this old bomber stays as weak as it is - it should be lowered to a lower BR. It already meets quite fast and deadly jets.
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Please don’t ruin the 7.X BR range any further, gaijin needs to immediately undo all of those changes, rather than keeping them, and making stuff worse.
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Its gonna struggle a lot more in 13.0 with no fox 3s because uptiers, just make it 12.7 or keep it 13.7 with its AMRAAMs
could do the same to the Tornado IDS WTD61, flies like absolute brick, and is only “saved” by having 9Ls
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It is indeed unfair. The Su-25SM3, equipped with the R-73 missile, can be adjusted to 11.7, while the JH-7A, carrying four missiles without IRCCM, is only at 12.3. Even though the JH-7A has superior airframe performance, this cannot make up for the shortcomings in its weaponry.
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aft09,9.0->8.7,due to it being it in the same br bracket as the weasel 1a2 that completetly outclasses it due to its nimble and agile hull aswell as topattack missiles
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realistic battle harrier gr.1 9.7 - 9.3 no flares and really close range missiles mixed with poor flight performance
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Id say thats never gonna happen as gaijin has stated the launcher will never be fixed as they dont believe it can elevate
Just like what the British air fleet received. right?
(Historically, quite many of the planes in RAF/FAA are 9L capable. but Gaijin gave AIM-9L to only few planes, due to balancing issue)
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ADEAD≠HEvt