Planned Battle Rating Changes for February 2025

Vehicle: AMX A-1A
ARB, GRB, Simulator Battles 11.3 → 10.7
reason: it is almost identical in flight performance as the tech tree AMX with the only true difference being the main armament where one could say the M61a1 trumps the DEFA 554, the only reason remaining that the plane is so high up is the set of missiles, which are not worth 2 BR steps as they are as easy to flare as all early missiles, it simply also does not perform well against its oponents at its current BR.

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Not a vehicle but a higher BR for all gamemodes.

The reason i believe this as we have way to much compression as of right now we could easily have 15.3 or 16.0 for air rb and 13.7 for max grb br (with cas aircraft) 13.0 for helis and 8.0-8.3? For naval as right now theres for naval theres a big congestion at 7.0. For air 14.0 isnt enough and theres is a lot of compressed br’s that make some aircraft unplayable or unpleasant to play and for ground it gives more space to reduce compression for vehicles such as the 2S38 Leo2PL 2S6 the Chally 2’s and 3 the leclercs Strv 122’s and merk’s and more. Having a all around br decompression will help this game for the future and allow space for more veitnam era aircraft.

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F-16A: ARB 12.3 > 12.7 (don’t change BRs) - I really don’t think it should be 12.3. The fact it’ll fight F-4Es, J-7Es and F-104Ss (among others) is quite honestly insane. it should be kept at 12.7.

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You need to make one comment per change, it will be ignored.

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the Mk.6 is alright at 8.3, should probabally go to 8.0, but the Mk.2 which literally nothing, same with the B-57A should go down in BR, they are both miserable

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Decompress up to 15.0 for air instead of compressing things further, we had to fight tooth and nail to get to where we are but the devs seem determined to ruin the matchmaker for everyone

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The M431 was never used on either; it wasn’t made at the time.

Best those 2 can get are vertical stabilizers. The report is on the issues website.

Amx 50 foch: A reload in ace at 14.9 seconds is too long, and I suggest 10 seconds in ace without modifying its BR.

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Skill issue, the radar is so terrible on the plane and missile you just need to go cold for a bit and the missile will miss or the plane will lose lock, the people that complain just don’t pay attention to their rwr, if you think its broken then you have no idea how top tier mechanics work…

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Fakour 90’s are hardly the best Fox 3 missile in the game. They are incredibly hit or miss because they are only usable at long ranges and from a high altitude, and can still be easily defeated by anyone paying attention to their RWR. The Fox 1’s it has dont really matter when it has one of the worst radar sets for its BR

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GRB, AH-1W. 11.0 > 10.7. I want a normal helicopter for the USA 10.7 premium line.

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25t tank → HEAT-FS (M431 shell)
historically the Bat 25T and the AMX 50/90 can load all the ammunition of the Patton M47, this would transform them into a Swiss Army knife, a fast tank that can handle a lot of tanks in its BR without excelling and without stabilizer.
But without raising it from BR.

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F-14A, Simulator Battles, 12.3 > 12.7.

The signature weapon of the tomcats were always more potent in simulator battles compared to realistic battles (Even before multi pathing nerf). The limited situational awareness and limitations of first person game-play makes it harder to counter the phoenixes in the same way as ARB. Not to mention the lack of capable counter vehicles to F-14A.

I still remember when F-14As reigned supreme in simulator battles when it was at 11.7. It’s only real competition was the Mirage-2000S4/5 and they’d often be on the same side.

I request the SB BR placement of F-14A and other tomcat variants to reflect RB BRs.

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Well, if the F16A is 12.3, then the F16AJ should be 12.3 also I think, it’s get destroyed at that BR

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Mirage 2000CS4 12.3 → 12.7 if the Cs5 is going up why not this one? Its basically the same plane - Maw but with a better CM drop pattern, as the Maw is useless in Air RB anyways and the Mirage 2000 was a menace in the current MM, it doesnt make sense to leave that one there

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FV4030/3, GRB, 9.7 > 10.0

It had to be said. It’s too good for 9.7 - simple as that.

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Venom FB.4
Gamemode: Air Realistic
8.7 → 8.0
it faces vehicles which are much better then it, it is almost on par with the Meteor Mk.8
it has no AIM-9B’s nor Flares to defend itself with during a fight which it will most likely lose due to its sub sonic speeds

It should be foddered with the other Venom because its a Sidegrade to it

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Air simulator, P-47D-30 (china/italy), 3.7>4.3 . Because it should match its US version and is too strong for 3.7 battle rating. It features airbrakes over D-28 which is 4.3 in simulator other wise its almost identical. Since the plane features wrongly at 3.7 battle rating in china , italy (D-30) trees i think matchmaking doesn’t affect performance in a significant amount and all of these should be 4.3 as the P-47D-28 is. I do expect this post will be ignored since simulator changes and my previous posts were too but other P-47s brs should be also looked into in sim.

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Air Realistic Battle, Mirage 2000C-S5.
12.7 → 12.3
It has just four missles. Considering MiG-21 Bison and Mirage 2000C-S4 is still at BR 12.3, logically it must be at BR 12.3.

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Realistic, AMX-13 (HOT)
Change: 8.3 → 7.0
Reason: It’s a 6.7 tank with six missiles that don’t work most of the time because of their upward initial trajectory. This results in a minimum engagement distance of about 400 meters, which is very high in WT terms. Your cannon can’t be relied on and the missiles also can’t. The 6.7 premium AMX-13 (SS.11) is much better.

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