10.3 instead of 10.0
This is to follow with the F-4C instead of being at the same BR as in the end, it is better than the F-4C.
Thai F16a ocu should be 13.3 just like israeli f16d
No hmd, no stock 9ms, much worse than f16c at the same br
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For me at 12.0 f4s is very good, it dosent need 9ls
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RB JH7A ，12.3>12.0 GB 11.7>12.3
this attack plane have 4 Infrared missile without anti-interference capability.and Slow speed at low altitude.low air combat capability in BR 12.3.Add 4×Kh29T.
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Mode: Simulator Battles
Vehicle: F-4E Phantom II
BR Change: 10.7 > 11.0
Reasoning: The F-4E Phantom gets all the advantages of an F-4E platform in game. It gets Agile eagle upgrade, AIM-7E-2 missiles with better performance and CW seeker, guided bombs, guided AGMs, vast arsenal of dumb munitions. This is set at the same low BR of an F-4C which lacks behind in every way compared to the F-4E. I agree with the BR placement of F-4C at 10.7 given that the earning potential of a phantom is higher than other planes (because of their ability to take A2G and A2A load outs without sacrificing each other). F-4E should be placed at a one step higher battle rating.
If the Typhoon also got Aim-120C5s, then yeah, they would both naturally move up
If you throw Aim-9X into the equation as well. Would push it up even further than that. Like wise with the Typhoon with IRIS-T and ASRAAM
Either that or the premies that fly in perfectly straight lines trying to get to bases and dont make any effort to defend, even when they have the loadout to do so easily (like the guy complaining the Tornado WTD61 couldnt defend against a F-14A (not the IRIAF one) because he would have to turn if one shot at him
The F-16A OCU should not be 13.3 just because it has no HMD and “no stock 9Ms” (what kind of reasoning is that even?!?)
No they don’t. Check the files, stats are 100% identical in all regards. Any perceived difference isn’t actually there. The stat-card shows a different lock range for no reason (Stat-cards lie anyways). Under the hood they are identical.
irl the only difference is the seeker anyways, but all SARH in WT perform like they have an inverse monopulse regardless.
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Air RB, J-11A. 13.7 > 13.3.
The J-11A when added in Seek and Destroy could at best be seen as a side-grade of the Su-27SM, as both platforms had functionally identical loadouts, but one had a MAWS while the other had a superior Radar and RWR mounted to it. However since then the 27SM has gotten 2 extra R-77s on top of the significant advantages that it already had (Radar/RWR). When compared to the 13.3 Roster the J-11A stacks up as follows. Weapon wise it is similar to the Su-34, however with a superior flight model and an HMD, at the cost of a far worse Radar and RWR. The F-16D Barak II meanwhile has superior Fox-3s, flight model (in most situations), and radar in exchange for a lower selection of those weapons and situationally worse flight performance.
The J-11A’s downsides at the end of the day are very large for the BR that it’s situated in. Being unable to identify the targets you’re engaging, and being unable to guide multiple missiles simultaneously the way your peers can is two big restrictions on that aircraft.
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Why is the F-16D Barak going down in BR when it is near identical to the F-16C Barak II in almost every aspect?
No I didn’t get that from your message as I didn’t assume what you were saying, I took the literal.
But that’s a thing with plenty of premiums, but nor do I think the 2s38 would be good at 11.3, just as an LAV-AD wouldn’t. A 2s38 would fit in a balanced role at 10.7 tbf
Also why the heavy tank hate? Many heavy tanks are nearly worthless, while some are excellent
AB 7.3>7.0 RB 7.0>6.7 Kugelblitz
panzer IV chassis protection is not very good and speed just have enough to use.The steering speed not fast.Attack capability on ground vehicles will not better than zsu-57-2 （BR7.0）. This way, it can be well matched with other vehicles with the same br.
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It still has incredible flight performance and power compared to anything else.
I’d consider 72 large caliber CMs to be fairly good, especially since you don’t have to use per pop.
The Mig-23ML/MLA are good planes at 11.7, and will be made better with the changes to the F-14IRAF.
Yeah, 72 LCMs is better than most 12.0 aircraft. If anything that argument could be used to move it up in BR not down :D
Crazy, They gonna remove the R2Y2’s but still won’t change the BR at all, “least ignored” Country in terms of BR
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Only if the F-104Gs move to 10.3, because they are objectively worse.
Hell yeah, even more compression
inferior flight model, no AIM-120s
pretty big red flags. Derby’s aint great
Why should an inferior plane stay at a higher BR then?
From what I’ve seen, the 104S’s are actually quite powerful and much faster than the other 104s. They have 6 9Js total, compared to the 2 or 4 that’s found on other planes.