Planned Battle Rating Changes for February 2025

ARB- F-104S-ASA(Italy). 12.0>11.3 OR 12.0>11.7

The F-104S-ASA, while the ultimate- and last- Starfighter, is not equivalent in capabilities to other aircraft at its current BR, if not inferior by a wide margin, and COMPLETELY OUTCLASSED by any aircraft above it. While its speed and armament are formidable, they are not the equivalent of an F-4S, -4J, JA37D, or really any other 12.0 aircraft except maybe the Mirage F1, and that’s pushing it. The aircraft should be at a BR that reflects its capabilities, avionics and armaments, and it is not equivalent to any aircraft it faces at 12.0, let alone anything it could see in an uptier. Especially in its present state, lacking the onboard ECM/lock-breaker systems present IRL, it is hampered by the limited RWR that makes combat against anything with SARH missiles of passable quality a death sentence. Therefore, the BR should be reduced. If 11.3 is too far of a jump, then at least consider 11.7, where it finds some company with the Tornado IDS variants and the MiG-23ML family.

Furthermore, post flight model adjustment, the late model F-104s are much more limited in their performance. While the issue of the F-104 being able to pull excessive and incorrect angles of attack and excessive G-Forces has been fixed, it is clear that this was done by increasing drag on the airframe to incorrect levels. Therefore, the Starfighter is also hampered in its ability to retain energy, which it was historically quite good at doing. Being able to sustain a high-speed, high energy turn was a significant tool that the Starfighter could make use of, but right now, because of the flight model adjustments, it is very difficult to do. Turns of any kind produce a loss of speed and energy that seem excessive for the angle of attack and G-Forces being experienced.

The flight model should be revisited to ensure that its performance across all variants is a correct representation of its capabilities.

Thank you for your consideration.

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AIR RB
12.0→11.7 kifr_c7
11.7→11.3 kifr_c2
just how IR missile with no IRCCM become so strong make s no sense high BR

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ARB BR:Thailand F-16A OCU:13.7->13.3.
A jet worse than Su-34 but with higher BR is unacceptable.
Thailand F-16A OCU shall receive a thermal target pod(it has used Sniper XR ATP targeting pod in realistic) and HMD in order to keep its AR BR as 13.7.

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AIR RB
f-4ej_kai should have AAM-3 and 12.3→12.7

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100% agree
needs to at the very least be 9.7

sry i cannot get it,wdym

they wont care about SB

ground RB
4.0→5.0
M44 (ALL)
make KV’s great again

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ever heard of decompression? F15 is still on of the best jets at top tier. if you cant see that than youre obviously a US main who cant live with their jets actually being balanced and just want to farm kills like the bot u are

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ARB, MiG-21SMT (Russia). STAY @ 10.7

This aircraft’s capabilities, armaments, and performance are perfectly suited to 10.7, and reducing its BR only further compresses the 9.3-10.3 BR Bracket, which would frustrate players and be unhealthy for the game. Do not reduce its BR.

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Also not to mention ships are completely different beast compare to tank and aircraft. In the R2Y2 case it is merely a filler for future stuff to fill in. While ship , beside fake and paper one , not even mentioning stuff that was laid down and never completed added to fill the tech tree up , not just being filler

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ARB, MiG-21MF (Germany). STAY @ 10.7

This aircraft’s capabilities, armaments, and performance are perfectly suited to 10.7, and reducing its BR only further compresses the 9.3-10.3 BR Bracket, which would frustrate players and be unhealthy for the game. Do not reduce its BR.

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ARB, MiG-21MF (Italy). STAY @ 10.7

This aircraft’s capabilities, armaments, and performance are perfectly suited to 10.7, and reducing its BR only further compresses the 9.3-10.3 BR Bracket, which would frustrate players and be unhealthy for the game. Do not reduce its BR.

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The Pbv 301 the 1.3 or 1.7 is from the 1960s so should it be 8.7 then?

we need higher BRs for planes in GRB

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Do you have the Mi-24D or a?

Air RB, F-16A (USA). STAY @ 12.7.

This aircraft is very capable and should not be reduced in BR. Its only disadvantage is its lack of BVR capability, but that should not justify dropping it in BR so it can wreak havoc on aircraft as low as 11.3 in BR, which have very little hope of contesting it. Other solutions, such as broader BR decompression from 12.7 upwards, should be pursued.

Do not reduce the BR of this aircraft.

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all mode 10.3→9.7
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it should have a lower BR then il_mim_72 while cn_antelope_tc_1l_ads have a less and worse missile can only shoot at 3km

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AAM-3 would be the Aim-9M Equivalent.

AAM-4 is the AMRAAM equivalent.

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Why the list so short? Are this unfinished?