Agreed they’re insanely fast and turn well if you manual wing sweep to 0 as fast as possible. Mld should go up if ml can’t cause it’s premium
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Vehicle and Battle Rating RB:
T-72B3A 12.0 → 11.7
T-72B3 11.7 → 11.3
Technical shortcomings of the T-72 tank base that prevent them from being competitive at this level with Kontakt-5 and an old cast turret (without T-90M level upgrades).
Leopard 2A5 12.0 → 11.7
Insufficient performance compared to other vehicles at this battle rating.
BMD-4 9.3 → 9.3
BMD-4M 9.3 → 9.3
The vehicle does not have sufficient survivability, coupled with the already worsened amount of damage of 30mm — Insufficient rate of fire for 2A72 and due to lack of APFSDS belt, and 100mm guns — general weakening of cumulative and explosive effects with a small amount of ammunition; with the presence of modules inside the tank (for BMD-4M).
Or 9.3 → 9.7
With the issuance of an APFSDS belt from BMP-2M.
BMP-3 9.0 → 9.0
With the ATGM reload time brought to the standard War Thunder values of 10 seconds.
Equalize the maximum BR of SPAA to the BR of Aircraft in GRB.
Pantsir-S1 12.0 → 12.3
Tan-SAM Kai 12.0 → 12.3
CLAWS 12.0 → 12.7
SPYDER 12.0 → 12.7
IRIS-T SLM 12.0 → 13.0
Aircraft and weapons with BR 11.0-11.7 cannot respond to threats posed to them by Top Tier SPAA
Tiger II (10.5 cm Kw.K) — forgotten loss of engine power or top speed performance with transmission limitations.
T29 — reload speed from 12.5s to 12.5s, 18.59kg shell does not have the same reload time as a 22.6 kg projectile of a larger caliber on T34. The same reload time with a similar gun on the Tiger II (10.5 cm Kw.K) which is the same 12.5s. 14.9s vs 15.4s for the T95, with a second loader and a more spacious turret layout.
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Well, they kinda have to at this point. They keep adding more vehicles that compress top tier further, and increasing to 12.7 will do quite literally nothing. It may decompress top tier a little, but thats it.
It already is on par… les pen but 1s quicker reload
i have full top tier US and ive seen some insanely stupid moves from 2S38s and they still benefit from them, the skill ceiling on that thing is pathetic compared to the TVL or RDF
I’d agree if it didn’t have HMG’s and sabo/heat. But its .3 higher because of those. Its fine
Object 140 shouldnt be the same br as "Object 122MT “MC”
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Why is the HF-24 still at 9.0?
It has no AA missiles, no countermeasures, no afterburner, it loses practically all its speed for any maneuver while barely being able to turn without pilot instantly blacking out making it almost impossible to evade incoming missiles it is constantly up tiered even sometimes to 10.0.
Its armament doesn’t matter because it is extremely difficult to unlock them. There’s no reason it should still be 9.0.
9.0 → 8.7
Air realistic could be ideal.
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this is crazy, this doesn’t even make sense
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only if they fix that damn vehicle. So many bugs its insane.
More broken than begleit lmfao. In what way outside of ATGM(which reloads twice as long if not even more
Worse firepower, worse AA
ehh, even with M883 it would have less pen so why not
A Few things I would like to note:
I am unsure of the AGS ever even got M900 with the type of gun system it has, however, I feel that if it goes up to 11.7, it should receive M900 or something to help it a bit.
2S38 I feel should at least go to 10.7 as it is a menace to everything and the only reason it is not looking so good on the statistics are because low level players are using it.
As I typically would ask for as well. I want to ask if the HSTV-L can receive it’s better ammo (Either Delta 4 or Delta 6). I feel this would help it keep up with all the armor at the BR.
P-59A I believe is not a very fast plane at all and it barely climbs. I would like to see it go back to 5.3 BR so it can keep up better.
Turm III Should be at least 8.7 BR because it is an amazing and very good vehicle at the 8.3 range that it sees. It has a 30mm cannon, stabilizer, and a 5 second reload. It is kind of insane how good it is.
The PzH 2000 should REALLY go up in Battle rating from 7.7 to 8.0/8.3 at least I feel as it has wonderful gun handling, great mobility and a very fast reload.
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Its way better in 1km-2km range, accelerates insanely fast and at that distance, ignores flares. It pulls harder and maneuvers straight off the rail. Considering you’ll be close to the ground in the F-16A OCU as it can’t really BVR, being able to sling off the Python 3 headon at 2km is a death sentence for the enemy.
Python 3 isn’t IRCCM, but it makes up for that in speed. I find 9Ms missing at such close ranges because it can’t maneuver as fast and as hard.
Its FM got absolutely gutted and it barely wins dogfights now, instead it can just run which is the only strenght that stayed. It have good acceleration and top speed,thats about it, they turned it into Starfighter.
Already higher firepower
Please do not touch the Tigers.
you have got to be absolutely out of your mind to belive what you are saying here.
Claiming that 2s38 is “not” performing superior in battle is diabolical.
there is a very clear 1 sided bias here…
2s38 has a much higher penetration and higher survivabillity than the strf.
wanting to raise strf BR whilst also refusing to give its AIR lock, outrageous .
2s38 is closer to HSTVL on steroids than strf
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That thing should just go to 10.7 already to silence the complainers.
Most KV-2 models are getting their reload buffed but one is forgotten ever since its penetration value got gutted several years ago.
KV-2 (ZiS-6)
reload time 16.7s → 12.1s
This would be in line with the buffs the other KV-2 models are getting.
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