Wait a sec.
Su-25BM with R-73 and good flight model at 10.7??
THE SAME BR as the A-7E with only 9Gs and crappy performance??
What are these changes man
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268 worse armor? What are you on
I guess i can’t expect logic from someone who thinks begleit is overtiered
with the high tier aircraft br changes can we get R73s added and R-27ERs removed on the MiG-29 9-12 and 9-13?
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if you want to use the T-2 at 10.0, just play the F-1 that has 4x 9Ps. 2x 9Ps at 9.7 really isn’t that detrimental
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Better engine, no?
I can’t speak for the higher tiers but low to mid tiers with the tiger 2 and T29 I would say are actually positives they are both really strong especially in a downtier
SU-122-54
GRB 6.7 → 6.3
Can easily be front plated by guns similar to the long 88 and the ones that can’t can just shoot the cupola. There’s no reason for this tank to be higher than the Jagdpanther.
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how about instead we just give them a good FM first?
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Tiger IIs definitely took a hit, but they aren’t bad now. They’re still one of the best 6.7s.
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You definitely have a BMD-4, not a BMP-3.
As I already said, it has DISGUSTING accuracy, ballistics, rate of fire, and also a chance of penetrating the side =~50%.
In addition, the BMP-3 has rather large dimensions compared to even the BMD-4; no armor; Fuel tanks explode more often than the ammunition rack (although this should not be the case); And the rear engine location leads to very frequent one-shots
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They should still be I agree, but now they are even less 7.0 material which means that Germany will still have a good lineup
for US
Stop leveling the AGS all the time, if you want to do it at least upgrade it’s shell. How can it be with less than 400mm when the Wolpack pen +500mm at a lower br with a similar conception?
for USSR
Finally the Su-34 moved up, it’s insane that a plane with so much FOX3 waits this long to move
For GB
Move the F-4 to 12.0 in SB. It’s the only F-4 with PD radar that stayed in 11.3 since the other ones moved to 12.0 (or even 12.3 Kai)
For JAP
For months now, the AIM-9L’s quality is decreasing which turns out to be the only Kai’s advantage and it is, now, fading away. It will need to be reduced to 12.0 to stay competitive.
For China
The A-5C should come back to his previous BR (10.3), it only has two missiles and a reduced number of flares, his flight performances are also too far from others 10.7 planes.
For France
It’s sad knowing that the newly added MSC will level up so fast, it will disrupt the new 10.7 line.
While all F-5A variants have 60 + 30 countermeasures, the NF-5A is limited to 30 + 15, similar to the F-5E, with no justification provided other than balance. All F-5 models with dispensers along the fuselage near the tail have access to 60 countermeasures—why not the NF-5A?
The Mirage 2000C-S5 should be downgraded to 12.3 in SB to counter the F-14A, as it has no effective counterplay, except for the 2000C-S4, which is an event vehicle and not widely accessible or frequently played.
The Mirage 4000 should be reduced to 12.7. Its armament is similar to the F-15A, but it is at a significant disadvantage against higher-tier aircrafts.
The Mirage 2000Ds shouldn’t be rated this high in Air RB or SB. A rating of 12.3 or 12.7 for aircraft that can only fire two Magics is unreasonable. Please consider lowering their BR to 11.7 or 11.3 as they really need it.
For ISR
The Kurnass 2000 has nothing to do at 12.3 Air RB or even at 12.0 in Air SB while it get no radar or IRCCM missiles, you should put this plane at 11.3 max.
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as a Japan main and F-4EJ Kai lover,
the Kai is fine. 9L quality hasn’t changed in ages.
BMP-3 has gen 3 thermals, hydraulic suspension and decent mobility paired with a very strong 30mm and ATGM/HE launcher combo. It is very broken at its current br, more so than a begleitpanzer.
Regarding armour, it is a light tank, you should not be getting shot in the first place
Most of these changes are ridiculous, just like AMX-13 going to 7.0 when even at 6.7 it was mediocre.
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As I said to Loki_V, most of my original point stands. Yes the leopard 2a4 reloads 0.4 sec slower but don’t forget the loader adds survivability to the 2A4.
It’s not just about the armour thickness but also the layout . The composite around the turret optics is very thin (easily pennable by autocannons) and behind it is the mechanised ammo rack which spans the whole turret width. It’s very easy to hit the ammo. Additionally, two of your three crew sit in the turret so just a quick autocannon burst can knock them both out.
Don’t worry I know you said don’t agree with the changes, but I’m pointing out that the MSC and the Leopard are pretty much identical. Where the MSC has an autoloader and much more fragile armour, the leopard gets a manual loader, which can be slightly slower granted, but also much better armour layout and increased survivability as the trade off.
I’ve noticed 9Ls hitting people despite them flaring. It is a perfectly fine missile, does not need changes
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The flare resistance is definitely worse than real life, but in game nothing has changed for a while.
If it did get 9ls, I would not mind it staying at 12.0
There are primary sources that 9Ls should ignore large calibre flares if the target is on reheat. They are 100% underperforming in terms of flare resistance.
Though the issue is probably that aircraft are way too cold due to a lack of IR Signature modeling for aircraft rather than the missile performance being too low or Flares too strong