Planned Battle Rating changes for August 2025 (updated 16:00, 15.08)

Well, guess im done buying anything in this game ever again.

like ? It has great mobility insane optics air tracking best atgm of the br being able to fire atgm on the move and a 30mm that gets the job done. Also idk if you saw but
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Give the vautours back their air spawn, Especially the 9.0 one without any guns or missiles.

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And to think that the Tiger II family was once one of the best tanks in War Thunder a decade ago and actually lived up to their nickname…

Alexa, play Viva la Vida for my poor King Tigers.

assuming you have ace crew in the first place. My lvl 150 crew reloads 6.4s on it. MSC has 6 sec reload right out of the box.

just to add, ive played almost 200 battles on Pzbtl123 variant. This is how far my crew is to getting Ace level:

It takes a long time for F2P to reach Ace crew.

Yes, 2A4 is technically better in regards to armor. Wont stop most common rounds found on this BR, ie. 3BM42.

Also theres seems to be some misunderstanding.

I said I dont support the change.

Im just saying it was bound to happen due to MSC being ever so slightly better than 2A4 (which i didnt find problematic, it mightve been technically better but not enough to justify a BR bump) and not being played by germany players.

they are still one of if not the best tanks of 6.7 bro

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F-104 ASA. ARB12.0-11.3 its comparable to Ja37C. Better IR missles but can’t turn and has to trade its gun for radar missles

F-104S. ARB 11.3-10.7, equal to F-8U. Faster but not as maneuverable, equal IR missles, again has to trade gun for radar missles

F-104G (China)/F-104J(Japan) ARB 10.7-10.3/10.0, F-105 equivalent a bit better missles

F-104G (Belgium/France)/Italy/Germany ARB 11.0-10.7/10.3 basically F-104G China but with flares

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Begleitpanzer 57, 9.7 > 9.3
It has no APFSDS or even APDS rounds, which limit how effective the main gun is despite the higher base pen compared to 30mm APDS, on top of an ITOW as its best missile while other BR peers (BMD-4, BMP-3) get tandem HEAT missiles that you can launch on the move and with much more accuracy at close range.

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They still be 3rd best heavies at the br, at worst

Looks like a bug report is in order, the f16a block 20 never carried aim120a’s, only c-5’s.

What’s the point of playing this game if there are no good vehicles left? But playerbase of course will like it.

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Most of what i said still stands.

Even where the 2A4 has a slower reload on the expert crew, it still has more crew for increased survivability and a better armour layout all at a similar mobility to the MSC and pretty much the same firepower.

Yea no, its entirely fair, its cannon can one shot barrels and the missile helps against armor. Paired with good mobility its very fair.

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F-16ADF is block 15 no?

Shitty camera? A-10A late is also 10.7 btw

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A-10A Late gets AGM-65Ds which have an inbuilt thermal sight due to them being IR guided

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It is, but the block 20 is also getting them. Different planes.

VT5 at 11.3???
you can kill a VT5 from ALL direction by using a 12.7 HMG shooting to the hull.
This thing is just a CV90105 with a slightly better shell.

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Mode: Ground RB

Vehicle: M1 Abrams

Change: Remove M735 (292mm), make M774 (372mm) tier I and add M883 (393mm) at tier III

Makes it more on par with similar vehicles like the Leo2a4 (dm23 408mm)

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