VCI PT2, 9.7 > 9.3
Its a huge 8x8 with a 25mm that gets 92mm of pen at best, and no other weapons, not even the cool .50 RCWS the VBCI gets. I genuinely have no clue why this thing is getting upped to the same BR as the BMD-4s.
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Vehicle: VT5
Change: BTA2 as top APFSDS round
Reasoning: Current top APFSDS is not suitable for 11.3 BR. BTA2 is necessary for balance.
or reduce it’s BR to 11.0
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Mode: GRB
Badger IFV
9.0–8.7
Argueably inferior to the rooikat MK1 (8.7) due to its HUGE profile, lack of armour, and very weak cannon- featuring very little pen and a low fire rate.
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What MSC have you been playing ? Its at best a sidegrade to the 2A4.
You give up one crew member for the 6s autoloader which is identical to 6s ace reload on the 2A4.
MSC has much worse hull and turret armor layout than the 2A4. It has large gaps with little or thin composite on the turret face that can be penned by auto cannons.
Mobility and Firepower are about the same.
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T-2 9.7 > 10.0. Fm paired with 2 9ps is extremely potent for the br and it would suit 10.0 alot better.
Probably arbitrary to go along with the AMX-32 in the 9.7 lineup that only exists in the realm of fantasy.
Vehicle: M1 Abrams
Change: M833 APFSDS
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statistics from ace crew should not be counted when comparing tanks, expert should be used instead
They can remove that artificial nerf in the second stage reload speed of the Leopard 2, this problem is suffered in the game by the Leopard 2a4, Leopard 2av up to the Leopard 2a7v, it is absurd that being a human loader it takes 23 seconds to reload, they should change to 13-14 seconds (which is how long it takes for the ammunition to pass from the chassis to the turret when at rest) since it would be a little more than double the normal reload and even so it is no longer as exaggerated as the current one.
The Begleit is a lot worse than the BMD
No dude wtf
It received 9Ps because its just such an awful aircraft. And now you’re suggesting moving it to the same BR as the F-1 which has 2 additional missiles.
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Well, guess im done buying anything in this game ever again.
like ? It has great mobility insane optics air tracking best atgm of the br being able to fire atgm on the move and a 30mm that gets the job done. Also idk if you saw but
Give the vautours back their air spawn, Especially the 9.0 one without any guns or missiles.
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And to think that the Tiger II family was once one of the best tanks in War Thunder a decade ago and actually lived up to their nickname…
Alexa, play Viva la Vida for my poor King Tigers.
assuming you have ace crew in the first place. My lvl 150 crew reloads 6.4s on it. MSC has 6 sec reload right out of the box.
just to add, ive played almost 200 battles on Pzbtl123 variant. This is how far my crew is to getting Ace level:
It takes a long time for F2P to reach Ace crew.
Yes, 2A4 is technically better in regards to armor. Wont stop most common rounds found on this BR, ie. 3BM42.
Also theres seems to be some misunderstanding.
I said I dont support the change.
Im just saying it was bound to happen due to MSC being ever so slightly better than 2A4 (which i didnt find problematic, it mightve been technically better but not enough to justify a BR bump) and not being played by germany players.
they are still one of if not the best tanks of 6.7 bro
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F-104 ASA. ARB12.0-11.3 its comparable to Ja37C. Better IR missles but can’t turn and has to trade its gun for radar missles
F-104S. ARB 11.3-10.7, equal to F-8U. Faster but not as maneuverable, equal IR missles, again has to trade gun for radar missles
F-104G (China)/F-104J(Japan) ARB 10.7-10.3/10.0, F-105 equivalent a bit better missles
F-104G (Belgium/France)/Italy/Germany ARB 11.0-10.7/10.3 basically F-104G China but with flares
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Begleitpanzer 57, 9.7 > 9.3
It has no APFSDS or even APDS rounds, which limit how effective the main gun is despite the higher base pen compared to 30mm APDS, on top of an ITOW as its best missile while other BR peers (BMD-4, BMP-3) get tandem HEAT missiles that you can launch on the move and with much more accuracy at close range.
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