PT-76-57
8.3—> 8.7 Stabilised 57mm autocannon with laser rangefinder with APHE.
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Bhisma should be 11.0-11.3 this vehicle is powerful
Gamemode: Ground Realistic Battles
Vehicle: Object 140
Problem: 8.3 - 8.7
Solution: 8.3 - 8.3
Please do not move the Object 140 to 8.7
The Object 140 does not deserve 8.7. There.
While yes, it’s good, its not good enough for 8.7, in a full uptier it already fought thermals and apfsds, but now it has to fight more modern versions of that. While the Turm III and all those 35mm busted SPAA’s are floating in 8.3, this thing moves up to where you need to have APFSDS to survive. This is not an Object 122MT “MC”, so why move it up?
While sure its more survivable, did you conside its weak turret hatches, side armor and turret armor?
While the cannon is good, did you consider its reload of 11.0 seconda unaced, and thats 2orsw if you have no loader, which happens frequently from autocannon vehicles and people shooting the big fat cupola
It’s fast, sure, but the engine is a big target.
Don’t move the Object 140 to 8.7, move all the autocannon SPAA and overpowered Turm to 8.7, the Beloved Object 140 will not perform well, unlike how the Turm III ans all those Autocannons will.
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I see there were some changes in the table already which I appreciate.
I was wondering why are KV2s being buffed while T30 stays untouched and now she is in the table too.
24seconds for these guns is better then the previous 21,3 seconds but I am still wondering why is this change even being proposed… can we just leave the reload times of KV2 and T30 as they are ?
If you really need faster reloading tanks there is still the T30E1 with automated loading…
Regarding KV2s I still think their reload should go up to 35seconds aced and 40-45seconds with worse crews and not 24seconds aced. That is still silly and pretty much unrealistic for human beings.
If you anyway decide to increase their fire rate I suggest KV2 to BR. 4.0 and T30 to 7.0 at that point…
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ADF will get 120A
Lol
You have to do one vehicle per post or it’ll be ignored.
Netz has better missles tho
Agree on 10.7, but the gun depression, size and mobility changes A LOT
Rdf could go to 11.3 as its worse HSTVL with more ammo
I’ve seen worse this year, here’s one that blows mine out of the water
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Tell me you didn’t play both
valid point
Mode : Ground RB
Vehicule : M-51 (every version)
BR change : 6.3>7.0 (or 6.7 minimum)
Reason : The M-51 has a 105mm gun similar to the French 105 F1 using the same shells as the AMX-30. At its BR, this tank can literally explode EVERYTHING and its mantlet has a tendency to bounce or absorb shells of all kinds. You will tell me that its armor is far too weak for 7.0 but not so much, because a Sherman is BR 4.0 and can be pierced by a huge number of vehicles even of lower BR. Here, putting it in 7.0 would not change much on this point. The fact is that its gun and shells are similar to 8.0 vehicles in 6.3 is ridiculously overpowered and to remind you, the M-51s are the ONLY ones to hold such armament at this BR which is even more ridiculous and I add that no vehicle of its BR apart from the M6A2E1 in 6.7 (modern artillery I do not count it, it is not even supposed to be there) which is a Battle Pass tank or the Tiger 2 10.5cm in 7.0 which is no longer available, hold a rival gun, besides them, you have to approach the 8.0 to see many more similar 105mm guns. This is why, the BR 7.0 would be quite normal for these tanks and even still A LITTLE weak.
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Type 87 is also there. If its 9.3 now then give it reload buff for ATGM
I know it’s not on this list, but the Finnish T-55M being moved from 8.7 to 9.0 was a bad choice. the only thing it has over the Russian ones is a mildly better dart. the Russian ones have good armor, good ammo, same mobility and everything else.
and, the max BR going to 14.3 is by far not enough, we need 14.7, maybe even 15.0, so we can start decompressing the lower-mid tiers. like, the J-7D, that thing at 10.7 is a crime, and gaijin has not addressed even trying to move it up to 11.0 like the other MiG-21’s.
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object140 should stay at BR8.3
it doesn’t has apfsds and laser range finder，other tank at8.7，like strv104，it has apfsds and laser range finder ,but object140 has none of apfsds or laser range finder.And，object140’s loading time is slow than avarge load time.so it should be stay at 8.3,not to8.7
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Not really, they are better in close range, but that’s about it. Much easier to flare them compared to an AIM-9L.
Game Mode: Ground RB
Vehicle: Challenger 2 OES / Challenger 2 TES
Change: 11.7 → 11.3
These vehicles are significantly less effective than the Challenger 2 (standard), Challenger 3TD, Challenger 2 2F at the same BR due to their extreme weight.
Their armour is only situational, as most people fire APFSDS and tandem heat which compelete ignore their 10+ tons of added armour. Therefore, they are just significantly less mobile versions of the other Challengers and are much worse.
At 11.3 they would still be slower than almost any other tank, but would face weaker rounds which would allow them to play their “heavy armour” role much better than at 11.7 where they are simply a downgrade over the other lighter Challengers.
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It is noticeably better. They improved it on G6 Rhino as well.
You see, they got the gold background