I’ve seen worse this year, here’s one that blows mine out of the water
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Tell me you didn’t play both
valid point
Mode : Ground RB
Vehicule : M-51 (every version)
BR change : 6.3>7.0 (or 6.7 minimum)
Reason : The M-51 has a 105mm gun similar to the French 105 F1 using the same shells as the AMX-30. At its BR, this tank can literally explode EVERYTHING and its mantlet has a tendency to bounce or absorb shells of all kinds. You will tell me that its armor is far too weak for 7.0 but not so much, because a Sherman is BR 4.0 and can be pierced by a huge number of vehicles even of lower BR. Here, putting it in 7.0 would not change much on this point. The fact is that its gun and shells are similar to 8.0 vehicles in 6.3 is ridiculously overpowered and to remind you, the M-51s are the ONLY ones to hold such armament at this BR which is even more ridiculous and I add that no vehicle of its BR apart from the M6A2E1 in 6.7 (modern artillery I do not count it, it is not even supposed to be there) which is a Battle Pass tank or the Tiger 2 10.5cm in 7.0 which is no longer available, hold a rival gun, besides them, you have to approach the 8.0 to see many more similar 105mm guns. This is why, the BR 7.0 would be quite normal for these tanks and even still A LITTLE weak.
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Type 87 is also there. If its 9.3 now then give it reload buff for ATGM
I know it’s not on this list, but the Finnish T-55M being moved from 8.7 to 9.0 was a bad choice. the only thing it has over the Russian ones is a mildly better dart. the Russian ones have good armor, good ammo, same mobility and everything else.
and, the max BR going to 14.3 is by far not enough, we need 14.7, maybe even 15.0, so we can start decompressing the lower-mid tiers. like, the J-7D, that thing at 10.7 is a crime, and gaijin has not addressed even trying to move it up to 11.0 like the other MiG-21’s.
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object140 should stay at BR8.3
it doesn’t has apfsds and laser range finder，other tank at8.7，like strv104，it has apfsds and laser range finder ,but object140 has none of apfsds or laser range finder.And，object140’s loading time is slow than avarge load time.so it should be stay at 8.3,not to8.7
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Not really, they are better in close range, but that’s about it. Much easier to flare them compared to an AIM-9L.
Game Mode: Ground RB
Vehicle: Challenger 2 OES / Challenger 2 TES
Change: 11.7 → 11.3
These vehicles are significantly less effective than the Challenger 2 (standard), Challenger 3TD, Challenger 2 2F at the same BR due to their extreme weight.
Their armour is only situational, as most people fire APFSDS and tandem heat which compelete ignore their 10+ tons of added armour. Therefore, they are just significantly less mobile versions of the other Challengers and are much worse.
At 11.3 they would still be slower than almost any other tank, but would face weaker rounds which would allow them to play their “heavy armour” role much better than at 11.7 where they are simply a downgrade over the other lighter Challengers.
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It is noticeably better. They improved it on G6 Rhino as well.
You see, they got the gold background
Maybe you shouldn’t bomb in one of the best 11.3 planes.
Which is why it’s 11.3 and not 12.0. Aim-7E-2s are one of the best missiles at 11.3, and the F-4E has decent flight performance to back them up.
I am literally the person that made this post.
I also specified this exact thing in the comment(s) below it.
SAPHEI can be used as designation, even if the round includes a penetrator and/or ballistic cap.
SAPHECBC can be used as alternative designation, however as I clarified in the post, this does not change the type of round. What is important here is the fuze-location, which in case of the smgr m/70 f k sar is a PD-Fuze (point-detonating) located in the tip of the projectile/ballistic cap.
The rounds commonly associated with APHE or the old SAPHEBC feature base-fuzes and thus have much higher penetrating capabilites.
Begleitpanzer 57 mm - “Panzersprenggeschoß” (57 mm smgr m/70 f k sar | SAPHEI) datasheet;
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Then begleit to 10.0 too
Lol
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Netz has Python 3s, which are better 9Ls. F-16A is fine at 12.3
F-16A OCU and AM both have AIM-9Ms. Putting them at the same BR as the MLU and ADF is cruel considering the ADF and MLU will only have 9Ls, therefore being way worse than the F-16 OCU and AM.
Everything else, I agree with though. F-16A should go up but should also always be under the AJ and Netz. We need more decompression, 14.0 > 14.3 does nothing.
bc the atgm reload is what keeps it in check. bmd4 is higher br bc it can actualy reload the atgm fast. Otherwise the bmp3 would be even more op than what it is rn
This, please. The Turm III is so powerful for its BR, a glass cannon for sure but has an amazing main gun and an amazing autocannon secondary which puts the french 20mm’s to shame in comparison.
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both do not have irccm and use the same seeker 10g more does not justify one being 12.3 and the other 12.7
Agree on all but bmp3 really. Unless it gets a reload buff